Swimming Naked — Coming December 2018

Phil was half-way home before he was calm enough to call Kim. “When were you going to tell me?” he bit out as soon as she answered.

“That was fast.”

“We agreed that it was better for you to be out of Baltimore.”

“No, you convinced me it would be better if I was out of Baltimore. But it’s not better, not for Liam. He’s your son and you barely see him.”

“I see him once a week. I’m doing the best I can.”

“And your best will be better when I’m closer.”

“He has a nanny and routine he’s used to. Why would you uproot him?”

“I think being closer to his father is more important than his nanny.”

“Do you really think the city is the place to raise him?”

“You don’t live in the city. Maybe I’ll get a place near you.”

His grip tightened on the steering wheel. “Don’t you fucking dare.”

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822 comments on “Swimming Naked — Coming December 2018
  1. Laura says:

    I’ve started a new thread…

  2. Laura says:

    Hi all!

    Tracie — Phil has exercise equipment in the basement.
    He’s pretty awful to Kim in SN – not sure if he says those exact words “not fit to breath the same air as Lina” but it’s definitely implied

  3. Ann says:

    Hi Deighj, etc.

    Nick is too mature for Kim’s antics. Remember when Phil went and met with Nick and Nick told Lena afterwards that he didn’t like her husband, that he reminded him of middle school or something. LOL. That’s why I love Laura’s writing, its funny, raw, and just grabs you.

    I was thinking about the last scene of SN. Do you think Phil and Lina will go off somewhere privately, like an island or something, renew their vows and then go swimming naked under the moonlight. Whatever Laura comes up with will be amazing. That’s why she’s the writer!!

    Janet, yes my daughter receives lots of training. She teaches high school in Baltimore County. This is a sad world we live in.

    • Tracie says:

      I would think they would want their kids there to include Liam…Remember when Phil told Lina in Chapter 47, not back, baby, forward….Forward would be with Liam…

  4. Tracie says:

    Laura does Phil ever allude/tell Kim that she’s not good enough to breath the same air as Lina? Maybe not in those exact words. but you know where I’m coming from….

  5. Tracie says:

    Nick wouldn’t fall for that, he is to loyal to Lina and would want her to come to him willingly not because of a wedge trick….She’ll make things hard for Phil, by trying to hurt Lina. which will make it harder for Lina to accept Liam. I just think we all are underestimating Lina. I think she will be in control of her own destiny in SN…..Kim will even be shocked….Kim doesn’t want Phil to have Liam incorporated into his family, she wants them to be family..Bitch you are a vessel….

  6. Janet says:

    I did think of a minor thing Kim May pull but I think it can happen so I shouldn’t say. I do want it to be a surprise. What are you thinking of. Haha. I do think since Phil isn’t budgeting shell try her wedge tricks again but up the ante. This is far fetched but do you think she will use Nick in her scheme? Maybe too far fetched.

  7. Tracie says:

    Girls feel free to share anything you want…I was thinking about Kim today and her planning agenda. Do you girls think she has a two fold plan? I think she has two objectives one to try and run Lina completely off or turn her so against Liam she’ll not accept him and she’ll still get to share her son with Phil and not have Lina in the picture, that would be just her time as a family….

  8. Janet says:

    Ann recommended broken road to forever by Rhonda Dennis. Go to Nov 2nd 7:43 post by Ann. She gave her book list there. I tried copy and post from my snapshots and it won’t allow me. Jennifer Peel girl in seat 24. Couldn’t read anything last night.

  9. Janet says:

    Tracie. I sent your post to my sister and brother. They in turn sent it to other family members. This post brought back memories of reading the theatre shooting in CO.

    Ann, does your daughter receive similar training at her school?

  10. deighj says:

    J, I am so ready for that list from Goodreads…thanks for thinking of me. What Jennifer Peel are you reading?
    I spend yesterday and today trying to get my garden in shape for winter. Big job so it will take me through the weekend. So tired last night I didn’t check in.
    Sugar, the safety info is appreciated, will pass on. I wonder if you’d mind my passing on the “For Carnal Knowledge” info to my son. I have to warn you that he’s a nerd and will probably send back the entire etymology of the root. I do hope the check up goes well, know it’ll be a relief tossing the crutches.
    Kbabe, Ann, don’t want to leave you out. I enjoy reading your words as well.

  11. Janet says:

    Hi all. Like Katie said the shooting was about 30 miles north of me. Horrible. They are talking to people who were able to escape during the shooting on the radio. So horrible.

    Tracie I hope you have good news today!

    Kbabe, I hated the guy too. And yes I read it to get the OW’s POV. The book made me feel ill. I certainly couldn’t read it a second time.

  12. Katie says:

    Hi girls, the shooting was north of where Janet is…a marine with some mental health issues in his history, country bar, 12 killed. Just so tragic. This is why I read so much. Fantasy worlds are so much better than our world.

    Good luck Tracie, and thank you for the safety information.

    I’m halfway through The Adultery Club by Tess S. I don’t know how it’ll end, if the main couple will work it out, if the wife will also cheat, if there will be redemption, but it’s really making me appreciate Phil. The husband is supposedly a good guy who would never, ever cheat but is having this full love affair with dates, gifts, and he just almost told his mistress he loved her. Fucker. I don’t even care if they stay married because he sucks.

    I almost didn’t read it because I hate the cover, but I wanted to get the Kim-like character’s POV. It’s surprisingly good.

  13. Ann says:

    Aww Tracie I hope you make out good at the doctors today and do indeed walk out!
    I’m sure your safety meeting will be talking about this latest shooting. My youngest daughter teaches high school. They do drills quite frequently.
    Boy I can’t wait for SN to be out! I hope Laura’s editor doesn’t cut a lot out of it. I was just re-reading that scene from WPF where Lina goes to pick up Logan from nick’s house instead of calling Phil to do it on his way home from work. Phil goes ape shit!! I love that man

  14. Ann says:

    Katie, the Jennifer peel book – no cheating but husband resents his wife for holding back his career. He actually leaves her and their 2 small children and the story revolves around their separation and how they get through it. He’s a real dick! Sorry

  15. Tracie says:

    Laura have you noticed, this thread is already at 800 comments. This should be 801, we just can’t get enough….LOL

    • Tracie says:

      I love you girls so I’m going to share some of my expertise with you….An active shooter always goes what we call strong side high side….Meaning most active shooters are right handed. They will take the first entrance to a building and go high and right….(which means aiming the weapon). Always when you enter a building with a large crowd note your exits first. Example: When I go to the movie with my girls, I always go to the far right entrance…I have an aisle seat and a clear path so I can crawl to an emergency exit with my kids at the front of the theater….An active shooter incident with mass casualties last approximately 3.5 minutes…In a restaurant, always sit facing the entrance and ensure you have an exit near by so you can get out of the line of fire….The first thing you do though is hit the ground, if you have no escape route, barricade yourselves in a bathroom or office and immediately call 911 and tell them what is happening inside the establishment.

  16. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls, wish me luck…I have a doctors appointment this afternoon and if all goes well, I’ll get to walk upright without any crutches…Lol….

    Laura does Lina ever go into Phil’s office in SN??? I know she probably wouldn’t until after the partnership party, but I wondered after that if she would feel comfortable in going.

  17. Ann says:

    Janet, just heard about the mass shooting at a bar outside LA. I know you live out there, hope all is well. These shootings are happening all the time now. Just horrible.

  18. Tracie says:

    Girls I want one where there is cheating but a happy ending…I just finished the new book by Vi Keeland and Penelope Ward. Hate Notes. Different from what they usually write together, only two steamy scenes…Good story….has spurts of humor

  19. Ann says:

    Reasonable Doubt was only one I read from Whitney G and that was a while ago.

    I don’t mind cheating in books as long as there is big time redemption.
    Any other recommendations?

    • Janet says:

      Ann did you read RK lilley? I liked Tristan and Danica series. He cheats and grovels and lots of angst. I liked her up in air series too but it’s BDSM.

      • Ann says:

        You know I’ve always seen that series (Tristan and Danica) but never read it yet. You really liked it? I saw it got great reviews. I might check it out. Thanks

        I love reading. It’s my escape!

        • Janet says:

          Laura said she couldn’t get into it but I loved it. I love reformed manwhores. It’s really emotional and very angsty. I love angst. The up in air series is really good too. Super emotional and there’s an evil OW in this too. Don’t love BDSM theme but it didn’t bother me. Maybe too much sex So you may skim through that part.
          I’m going to start your recommmemdation Jennifer peel tonight

          • Ann says:

            The Girl in Seat 24b or whatever is good. Not a lot of sex but intense. Married couple in their 30s with kids and suddenly the husband doesn’t want his wife anymore. Has a hea

          • Janet says:

            Ok. It sounds good. I was reading mainly NA genre when I stumbled upon Laura’s books. Now I like reading about older couples and second chances. I read a book about a couple who are about to retire. I think 57. It was heartbreaking and no HEA so I can’t recommend it. I mentioned it in an earlier post with another girl Veronica. Can’t eemember the name now. Also Anne Calhoun, loving Lacey is good. She’s an older woman and the guy is a cop. Love cop books. Lol

          • Katie says:

            Does he just leave or does it involve cheating?

          • Janet says:

            The couple who is retiring or Tristan and Danica? If couple retiring then the guy cheats with a woman 20 yrs younger(both lawyers and no evil woman). She gets pregnant and wants to have the baby. The husband wants to stay with the wife but ultimately they split up.
            In Lilley’s Tristan and Danika series he cheats and Danika gets into an accident and walks with a limp.

          • Katie says:

            Oh I meant the J. Peel one

  20. Tracie says:

    Janet I bet Phil will handle it with a clenched jaw, but he would never allow Lina to be humiliated by Kim in public, if he had any control of the situation at all…now there is not much he can do about making Lina feel uncomfortable or awkward in public if Kim shows up….He would go with the ignore again like at the wedding….

  21. Katie says:

    Has anyone read Two Weeks Notice by Whitney G? I’m at 10% and not sure I want to waste anymore time on it.

    • janet says:

      not that great Katie. Go read the Ethan duet. That’s better. Her recent ones are duds. Also, have you read Sara Ney? It’s NA genre but the first few are good. I was on goodreads and thought of recommendation for Deighj. No cheating.

  22. Tracie says:

    What if Clyde’s is where your whole family dinner scenario happens J-Girl???? Remember the one you made up????

    • janet says:

      I hope so. LOL I want to know how Phil handles it if faced with evil in front of the family. Or the church gossip scene you did. How does he handle public situations? In the wedding scene Phil told Lina to ignore Kim and so did Diane. in SN can they ignore Kim?

    • Katie says:

      What if Lina invites Kim to join them for dinner? That would be great.

  23. Tracie says:

    Also, Kim would probably know what car Lina drives, being that Phil drove her car sometimes…If I were Lina, I would want Phil to tell me what type of car she drove as well…Like Lina told Phil in Chapter 15, “I don’t want to be caught unaware.”

  24. Tracie says:

    Laura was Liam with the Hunter’s at Clyde’s?

  25. Tracie says:

    J-Girl I don’t think she sacrificed anything, she’s a manipulative planner. Kim has once again placed herself in another area of opportunity, for bumping into the Hunter’s, especially Lina….I wonder where Lina’s yoga class is and if Kim has enrolled….

    • janet says:

      did you guys think anything happened at Clyde’s during dinner? Laura ignored my question which makes me think a possible run in? How about Kim running into Lina’s yoga class late wearing pink yoga gear and the class is full so Lina couldn’t leave? LOL Kim would probably wear black and she has a personal trainer who looks like Phil. You would say nobody looks like Phil.

      • Tracie says:

        That is correct no body looks like Phil…I think the witch would be there early, so she could position herself at the back of the room to ensure she had a clear view of Lina…if there were mirrors in the room Lina would also be able to see Kim standing behind her …this woman gets off on mental warfare…..

  26. Janet says:

    Back to SN, how much did Kim make at Phil’s firm Laura? More than 200? Did she take a pay cut to be with Phil or did his firm match her salary in NY? I’m wondering if she thinks she made a sacrifice to be next to him. Thinking of your climax…

  27. Ann says:

    Tracie you sound like you have a wonderful home and a nice life. My oldest daughter moved to Michigan and lives there with her husband. Every time she comes home she complains that the East Coast is too crowded for her. She likes a slower pace.

  28. Ann says:

    We used to have birthday parties at the Aquatic center in Annapolis and sometimes the roller rink but that was years ago. Lol. Nothing too fancy.
    It’s funny when we had parties back in the 60s you just had them at home and played games, like musical chairs. Lol

  29. Tracie says:

    Lol…my life is so laid back. I’m afraid you girls would get bored.. I can take the hustle and bustle of larger cities short term….My husband lived in Houston when he was younger. He said one day he was stuck in traffic for almost 3 hours trying to get 20 miles out of the city where he lived. He said he looked up and there was a U-haul truck spinning in the air, advertising their specials and he decided right then he was moving back to Oklahoma. We had rain coming in last night, so we set on the front porch on our glider with a quilt and watched the storm come in, there is nothing but open pasture in front of us, so its a beautiful view….

  30. Tracie says:

    My kids went to a private school, but nothing like you have in MD or CA….our parties consisted of large Bonfires, hayrides, laser tag, swim parties and onetime my granddaughter and all her friends slept in our treehouse…but it’s not a normal treehouse, it comes with fans and patio hearters Lol…

  31. Tracie says:

    Janet go find Ryan Eggold and tell me if he’s hot in person….

    • Ann says:


      Yes, Janet share some more stories

      Laura, I’m sure they were orioles and ravens families?

      • Laura says:

        Yes to both!

      • Janet says:

        Nanny stories! It is weird but I dont really care(remember tommy lee Jones was my type). I go or attend stuff if invited because I’m really curious to see how they live. Most of the time I’m disappointed. I never really spoke to the mom. She wasn’t very approachable but yes brad really made an effort. Once at a diff persons party(not an actor but perfume owner) there was a friendly guy so I was talking to him for 5 min and finally I asked what’s your son or daughters name? He said I’m part of the security. LOL. Then during dinner they had synchronized swimmers as part of the show. I thought it was the most ridiculous thing. Stoopid.
        Ok here I will name drop. Another bday party and I’m talking to a random dad and he started telling my husband and I how he had to hire a famous opera singer for a “project” because he didn’t know much about opera yada yada. I said what project. Who are you? (I do have a tiny bit of Tracie in me). He’s a writer/ director and with him we became friends. Paul Weitz. Director of about a boy. I said Paul you look like this but you wrote American pie? Lol.

        • Laura says:

          LOL — now that sounds like something right out of a movie or book — the security part haha

        • Laura says:

          Wait? synchronized swimmers at a children’s bday party? That’s hilarious!

          I love the over-the-top bridal shower in the movie Bridesmaids — actually loved the whole movie

          I had no idea Apple Pie and A Boys Life were the same guy — never would have guessed

          • janet says:

            synchronized swimming was not bday but I don’t like them. They gave out men’s cologne at the end. I sold it on ebay for $200 and donated it to some school thing. People are stupid and ridiculous and no it was not a charity thing.

            apple pie I think was like 20 years ago but I remember it was like animal house humor and I couldn’t see that coming out of this calm person.

          • Tracie says:

            I love synchronized swimmers…..LOL

  32. Laura says:

    That has to be weird — having your kids in school with movie stars children or maybe it’s not because your used to it. My daughter went to school with the children of professional athletes — they always had the best birthday parties lol.

  33. Ann says:

    Kids. Jesus my typing is awful today

  34. Ann says:

    In my opinion it’s Got to be Brad Pitt’s kid. I know the Cornell’s we’re friends with them and had pictures of birthday parties online. Am I warm?? LOL

  35. Janet says:

    ZZ Top! I remember. And I like the Rod Stewart version of your song. But Phil is a lot younger than us. Does he even know zz?

    Ann, I was on the phone for 45 min today trying to get my free points back for a night at a hotel we didn’t use so no on celebrity. But I do have lots of gossip for the tabloids. Sort of like the the cleaning lady or the nanny stories. I’ll tell you a funny one. One was for a birthday party we were invited to years ago. The star with 6 kids(I can’t say the name). We get there and the bodyguards at the gate wouldn’t let us in. We were not on the guest list. I said we are invited so can you call and check. Nope. Not allowed to do that if not on the list so good bye. The next day a mom came up to me, where were you guys yesterday? Me- I was not on the list. Few years later one of the kid got expelled from school and the parents pullled all of them out.

  36. Tracie says:

    Where does Phil workout Laura? I noticed the Columbia Gym was close to Kim….

  37. Tracie says:

    A song that I could associate with all of Laura’s books would be ZZ Top, Every Girl’s Crazy About a Sharp Dressed Man……I could see myself swing dancing or hip shaking with Joseph, Tony and Phil…we could be a dance company…Oh yeah…..

  38. Tracie says:

    Hi Sweet Girls….I just read your posts and I don’t have a favorite song…I like so many of them, I say all the time “this is my new favorite song.” I like to look at the world as a full screen, taking everything in at one time LOL…..

    But I can see my Phil cruising to the Farside house, after a long day at work, missing his family. He has his suit coat and tie off, his sleeves rolled up and CCR cutting through the speakers of the M6, with Have You Ever Seen the Rain….Poor/Hot Phil

    • Ann says:

      Poor hot Phil is right!! I’ve been reading sections of WPF. Diane got on my nerves!
      Tracie, Phil has got to be one of the best leading male characters in books!

      • Tracie says:

        Ann Phil is awesome…but so is Tony. Joseph and I could be really good friends. My sense of humor kind of falls in line with his. Katie and I have no filter, which Joseph would appreciate…Lol I died laughing when Joseph told Casey “I didn’t know if this was your High School or College graduation…it was an epic line.

        I had a problem with Diane too…she is older than Lina and favored Phil (IMO)….I think she didn’t want Lina to throw her life away over someone as trivial as Kim…

  39. Janet says:

    I like Chris Cornell’s version too and was a fan. Sad. His daughter was in my kids class for a long time and we’ve all had a few playdates over the years. Didn’t know him well but he was always happy and upbeat, never showed any indication he was depressed. Really sad.

    • Ann says:

      Janet, wow, I feel like I’m talking to celebrity with you. I’ve been a fan of his for a while. He had a great voice, and his daughter is really talented. Just from what I’ve read about him he seemed like a normal guy. Really sad.

  40. Ann says:

    Katie, Here are two of my favorite songs. Now remember my age!
    Someone Like You by Van Morrison and Nothing Compares to You by Chris Cornell. I like Cornell’s version better than Sinead O’Connor’s.

  41. Laura says:

    Just listened to Hands by Jewel — Beautiful!

  42. Laura says:

    Favorite Song — Life’s for the Living by Passenger

    • Katie says:

      I love that song!

      Janet, dogs are the best, whether you have them or just look at pictures. Nothing sad about that tradition with your daughter. It’s very sweet actually.

  43. Ann says:

    Laura, I checked out the other homes on Mary Vale Court and some of the others were in the 6,000 – 8,000 square foot range, which makes more sense for the Hungters. That 13,000 square foot home that Janet mentioned is over the top, which makes me wonder what Phil’s annual salary is supposed to be?

    I know where Kim lives! This is so cool having this book take place in your own backyard. LOL

    Laura, I’ve got a question completely unrelated but I’m just curious. As an author what are the pros and cons of contracting with Kindle Unlimited? I pay for Kindle Unlimited because I read so much. I do remember one KU book I read where the author at a note in the front telling readers that if you did not complete the entire book, that she wouldn’t get full credit.

    I know you’re busy, so don’t worry if you don’t have time to answer.

    Have a wonderful day ladies. It’s sunny here today for a change!!!

    • Laura says:

      As a partner Phil makes over a million
      Kim’s proximity is worse because she lives right near the closest grocery store and main shopping center.
      I’ve lived in DC, Virginia and obviously Maryland most of my life — it’s easier to imagine where your characters are when you’ve been there yourself.

      As far as Kindle Unlimited — you’re paid per page after the first 10 percent which is free. If you read half the book the author makes half the money. I certainly wouldn’t feel obligated to finish a book I didn’t like.

  44. Tracie says:

    Laura is the Witch living on Heritage Hill Lane?

    • Janet says:

      Yup. There you are. Lol I looked at the streets wondering where’s Kim’s street. Did you measure the 1.5 m distance. All I know is I’m 2,639 m from Lina.

    • Laura says:

      I almost spit out my coffee when I read this lol
      I have a good friend who lives on this street.

  45. Janet says:

    Beautiful. 13,000 square ft!!!!!!! Huuuge. Lol. Tracie will look at each picture like an eagle.

    Now i go look for Nicks beach house. I did not know it was in DE

  46. Katie says:

    Ok I want to know, what one song describes you as a person?

    • Katie says:

      All of you.

    • Janet says:

      Oh This is too hard! I don’t know if it describes me but I’ve always loved
      Kate Bush’s This Woman’s Work.

      • Katie says:

        Favorite song works too. Because it probably still describes you, even if it’s subconscious. I was thinking about this walking the dog today, and I had some songs play in the shuffle from interesting times in my life.

        • Janet says:

          Right! How about you? What’s your go to song? What breed is your dog kbabe? My daughter and I look at pictures of dogs before we go to sleep most nights since she turned 2. So sad right?

          • Katie says:

            “Hands” by Jewel. I actually went through all of my music tonight. I loved that song in HS and it still fits me today (although I’m not that religious). It definitely fits me better than the straight hood rap I listened to before water polo games.
            Our dog is a super mutt- he looks like a husky with short hair…one side of his face looks like a German Shepherd..and the coloring around his eyes is like a raccoon. He’s really cute. No dogs for you?

          • janet says:

            I can so visualize this. Jewel. I can see it. You played water polo in HS? We didn’t have women water polo growing up but the boys playing that sport were more popular than the football players. Omg their bodies are works of art. My brother played. You are a cool chick and remind me of my younger cousins ages 33-39.

  47. deighj says:

    Heels J, heels not leels.

  48. deighj says:

    J, about those shoes…at the time I was working as a rep for an international company dealing with interior build out and office design. I was up at 4:30 trying to dress with only my bathroom light on. On office days I dressed in suits and low leels and with the dim light it was difficult to distinguish between black and blue. I didn’t discover the difference until I was in the office.

  49. Ann says:

    Janet, Nick lives in Federal Hill which is like minutes south from Inner Harbor. My daughter used to rent a townhouse (row house) there which was like 150 years old. All brick walls inside, but narrow. Rent was $3,000 per month. She had roommates because on a teacher’s salary she couldn’t afford it by herself. Nick keeps his boat in Annapolis. Not sure where his beach house is.

    Last time I was at Clydes I got the Cream of Crab Soup and it was so yummy. If you live here in MD you eat crabs.

    • Katie says:

      The homes I showed on my boards are in the real-life areas from the books and what you’re discussing right now. Laura, tell me if any aren’t consistent with what you’ve seen or imagined.

    • Janet says:

      Sounds beautiful. I saw some that look similar to townhomes in DC area. So cute. I saw that jumbo crab cake in the appetizer section.

  50. Katie says:

    Here’s my take on Kim. Justice for her is that she doesn’t win. She’s still winning. Phil had an affair with her. Lina left Phil for a period because of her. Phil’s family is upset because of her and the baby. We know she continues to be a pest in SN. She continues to win.
    Justice will be her losing her power. This would come in the form of the family, especially Lina, accepting Liam…and Lina trusting Phil again enough to not be phased by Kim’s bullshit. As much as I want her to die or disappear, I just can’t see it. It’s not realistic. Terrible baby mamas exist in the real world. Unfortunately. Too many of them. But I could see her being selfish and leaving with a man or for a job and giving up full custody of Liam. That would be realistic. Maybe Phil and Lina will share custody with her family.
    By the end I don’t think it will be a problem for Lina to put her retirement/travel dreams on hold for Liam. She will love Liam because he’s part of Phil, and this is true love. She is selfless, and she wouldn’t resent Liam. We just have to get everyone to this point.

    • Ann says:

      Katie, I like that idea. I know she won’t be killed off or move away, but it’s nice to dream. LOL. Everything that Phil and Lena went through just made them so much stronger in the long run.

    • Janet says:

      Ugh. You are so right but I’m not happy about it. I grew up watching days of our lives in the summers and learned Spanish watching telemundo. When I’m depressed I watch law and order marathon where justice is always served in an hour so my views may be a bit skewed. Your version is the most realistic She doesn’t win.

  51. Tracie says:

    Clydes has some yummy looking entrees, but the inner city looks really crowded to me…..Since Clydes stays open until 2am does that mean they have a dance floor? I’m just thinking there could be a swoon scene at Clydes….

    • Janet says:

      Omg I saw the menu and the closing time too!! Did you see the Mac and cheese with gold fish in the kids menu? I want surf and turf type with pumpkin cheesecake and my real iced tea with extra lemon. Lol

    • Laura says:

      It wasn’t a date — just a family dinner plus Matt

  52. Ann says:

    I believe the Hunters live in Ellicott City which is in Howard County and Phil’s law firm is in downtown Baltimore at the Inner Harbor. Federal Hill is about 5 minutes from the Inner Harbor, where Nick lives. Logan’s school (Gillman) is in the Roland Park area of north Baltimore. See I’m getting my tour job started. lol

    Laura, correct me if I’m wrong.

  53. Tracie says:

    My husband has a military buddy that lived in northern, CA and he said our house, out buildings and land would go for several million dollars there. It just blows my mind..

    • Ann says:

      I think California real estate is way higher than Maryland and I thought Maryland was high.

    • Janet says:

      Tracie not several, 100 mil!! But I like where you are. You have a creek, horses and cows and chickens and god knows what. Those dogs are in heaven running around.

  54. Ann says:

    Tracie, you are funny. I live in this area, and I was on realtor.com for Ellicott City too. haha. I think Laura lives in Ellicott City. Her other two books were based in Washington.

    Katie, if you plan to see A Star is Born, I would see it soon. It’s been out since October 4th and they will probably drop it soon.

    Deighj, I wore a black and navy blue heals to work years ago so don’t feel bad.

  55. Ann says:

    Janet, the ending to WPF? Personally, I want to see Kim die, or move away with some hot attorney, and turn custody over to Phil. Laura is a realistic author and she doesn’t buy into the LMN drama that is so deserving of Kim. However, I hope it ends leaving us satisfied. I would like to see Kim get her just dues. Maybe Kim will get into trouble with her law firm. Maybe she’s going after another attorney too, which could backfire. I do think that Kim will not have the patience for a baby. She’s self centered, but she hates Lena with a passion and will not want her to raise Liam.

    I like closure and HEA’s in my books. Maybe Kim will just move on with her life, but I’m not sure because she’s a real nutjob! I also feel that Phil and Lena are stronger than ever from what they’ve been through. So I’m thinking they are a united front now and can take on that witch. Plus I believe Phil is one smart, hot, attorney and can maybe take her down legally. I know I’m rambling.

    What are your thoughts?

    • Janet says:

      Lord I’m all over the place as far as the ending goes because Laura threw a wrench when she said no lifetime. I admit I do love OTT lifetime moments. I think that’s why I love hating Kim so much! Like you, I want Kim to give up Liam because I don’t think Hunters could truly be happy with Kim in their daily lives. I don’t think Lina deserves that even if that scenario is more realistic. Also Liam love his mommy. Even if she’s selfish and neglects him, she’s still the mother. So if totally realistic, Kim may never let go of Liam because he is hers. Maybe I can see her doing something to screw someone else over and karma bites her in the ass. Maybe just a little Mexican soap opera insert moment and the narcotic cop scenario I posted couple days ago. I see her in jail.

      • Ann says:

        Maybe Kim will back off and agree to a normal visitation schedule with Phil and Lena. Who knows, maybe Kim will have a Come to Jesus moment and change her colors!
        I can’t wait to read that damn book.

  56. Tracie says:

    Okay my Hunters are real…..I’ve lived with them since January….I even looked up Ellicot City real estate just to see the houses. What blows my mind is the difference in the cost of living in MD compared to Oklahoma. I saw this one house that was 948,000, we have one similar in size and style not to far from us on 20 acres for 550,000…..

    • Janet says:

      Sorry. I’m catching up and must have missed this. They live in ellicot city? In Baltimore? I thought it was near tony’s House. I’ll go read some past comments. 20 acre for 550. Holy moly. My whole neighborhood can fit there I think.

  57. Ann says:

    Janet, I’m still thinking about that movie. Lady Gaga was terrific. I wish she would keep the more natural look instead of the platinum blonde. She has a different look about her but she’s pretty. I saw a recent interview with Bradley and it sounds like they are really close friends. OMG, Bradley can really sing too. My youngest daughter was with me and she didn’t know the ending. We sat their with our tissues and then went and had a late lunch and sipped some wine. It was a good day.
    I know I’m late in participating in this group, but I have enjoyed reading all your thoughts and ideas of WPF. I’m still Team Phil, I just want to see him do a little more suffering for what he put Lina through, and I’m sure Kim will be a knife in his side. I’m hoping with his POV in this book, it will make us love him even more!
    I’ll have to ask Laura what type of house they have. She said the house is a mile from her sister’s. lol.

    • Janet says:

      Ann, he’s such a multifaceted guy isn’t he? Who knew he could be a rock star too? Yes they were good together.

      I think Laura said the house is on the street where she grew up. Don’t quote me but I remember the subject came up on In the past. I must look at Katie’s board again.

      I’m curious to know your take on the ending. Realistically, do you see Kim with another man? Disbarred?

    • Katie says:

      CLEARLY I need to see this movie.

  58. Ann says:

    Laura, that is so cool. I’ve been to Clyde’s and they have great food. I’ve got to head back there soon. Hey have you ever thought of having a guided bus tour for WPF. Since I’m retired I can come work for you as a tour guide, hahaha. We can even give the customers a ride through old town Ellicott City too before heading to Baltimore. I’ve got chills knowing that I ate at the same restaurant as Phil and Lena. (You know this is crazy talk, but I love it).

    Just curious but what section of Ellicott City? Closer to Columbia or out by Rt. 40?

    • Janet says:

      That would be so cool. Lol. Sign us up for the tour! I will look up the restaurant tonight. I love that they live on an actual street, stay at hotels and eat at real restaurants. Did anyone make a surprise entrance at clyde’s? Omg

      Ann, I think Bradley should dump his jaguar girlfriend and date lady Gaga. Their chemistry was off the charts. Loved it!

      Katie your sarcasm is too good. Lol. I got the Walmart jeans. They are big but that’s good because I needed a boyfriend fit anyway.

      Deighj can you tell us where you work that you can go to work with 2 different shoes?

    • Laura says:

      LOL — Great plan! They live in Western Howard County — address is in a comment below

  59. Ann says:

    Laura – Just curious. Is Phil’s law firm located around the Inner Harbor, or North Charles Street area? This is crazy, lol. We all talk like these are real people!

    You mentioned that you were going to miss Phil, just like the rest of us! Is your next book the Tony/Casey or Lucas Roe?

    • Laura says:

      Ann — They are definitely real to me. I’ve been living with them for a long time. The law firm is near the Inner Harbor. I even know the street where they live LOL They went to Clyde’s for dinner tonight (if you know where that is — on the lake in Columbia)

      I’ve finished half of the Lucas Roe story and half of the Nick Prossi story. I also have half of another one which is my favorite but like WPF is more of a family drama so it will take longer. I’ll probably finish Nick Prossi next. That way I can update everyone on Tony and Casey and Joseph and Lina

  60. Ann says:

    Good Afternoon!
    Still raining here in MD. It’s getting really depressing here. We’ve had more rain and cloudy days here than ever.

    Laura, I went to vote this morning and there were no lines either. My husband did early voting last week and had a 2 hour wait. Hope your Dad is ok. Sounds like you’ve got a lot on your plate right now. I hope the climax scene has a lot of pages? Can’t get enough of the Hunters, for sure. I keep thinking about it. I’ve already read WPF 3 times and still love it.

    Tracie that is so sad about that newlywed couple. Just horrible. I haven’t heard the news yet today.
    Katie, I forgot that Reasonable Doubt was heavy on the sex. I hope you liked the Andrew character, I thought he was great.

    Saw A Star Is Born today and it was really good. Did any of you guys see it? Just loved the soundtrack.

  61. deighj says:

    Sugar, you’re right…only you. Reminds me of when I wore 2 different shoes to work. Twice. My coworkers posted a sign outside my office under my name saying “fashion consultant.”

  62. deighj says:

    Laura, still 5 days before deadline? I can only imagine the stress. Any new updates on your dad, when is his surgery scheduled? More stress that.

    • Laura says:

      He meets with the surgeon on Monday.
      Yes, I am feeling stressed. I think I’ll meet the deadline but I won’t release the book unless it’s ready — no compromise.
      The anxious is over — onto less stressful scenes.

      • Tracie says:

        Laura I’m glad you are over the hump and sorry you are stressed…did the swoon scene come out swooney last night….I can’t wait to read my Phil in action, whether he is slaughtering our villain, loving his woman,interacting with his children, rolling his sleeves up on his dress shirt or just breathing…LOL I can’t wait

        Deighj…Its hard to work around a tough crowd..LOL

        • Laura says:

          Tracie — I’m going to miss our man. The swoon scene went well.

          • Tracie says:

            Me too…but if I get to missing him to much, I’ll just go read about him again….LOL I’m going to get all your books in hard copy too…what if the electricity goes out and I can’t charge my Kindle….WPF is the first book in my library and if a new book is downloaded, I always read a Chapter in WPF to keep it first…That is why I can quote Chapters…LOL……..

          • Tracie says:

            Well really I can quote chapters in all three of your books….LOL….I’ve read them multiple times….

          • Laura says:

            You definitely know the chapters better than I do.

  63. Tracie says:

    Well I’m anxious too….I have to wear loose fitting pants, as not to agitate my incision, I was going over a disciplinary action with one of the supervisors and looked down….that’s right my damn pants are inside out LOL…..Only me…I swear….Sunny and 75 here today…..

  64. Laura says:

    Anxious writing day — fits the rainy day, I suppose. Still at the climax. I did take a break to go vote — no lines in Maryland, not near me anyway.

  65. deighj says:

    Kbabe, I started reading “We All Fall Down” last night and it’s really good. Only got 7 chapters in b4 bed, no hanky panky yet but it’s coming. Logan Chance is a new author for me.

  66. deighj says:

    Sugar that’s it exactly! Sal-mon. Oregonian’s say sa-mon (?)

  67. Katie says:

    Ok girls, Reasonable Doubt was good. All of the law lingo was an interesting way to organize the story. Extremely broken but talented attorney, and sweet, patient and very forgiving college girl. A little heavy on the sex, and I think I’ve read the word p*ssy enough times to last me a lifetime, but good!

  68. Janet says:

    Was reading the news today this came up on my feed from bustle.com. 9 jobs sociopaths are most likely to have. Top 3. Surgeon, lawyer, and politician. They crave control power and prestige. Laughed and had to share.

  69. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls, Laura what is our mood today??? Anxious, Swooney, Sad or Happy….We could also be a buffet of emotions because you are tweaking scenes….Lol

    Hoping you have a good day of writing and your dad is doing well…

  70. deighj says:

    J, I use to live in Gresham, Oregon working at a middle school. Both my coworkers and students kept asking me to repeat words. The one that set off howling was salmon. I did not see the humor.

    • Tracie says:

      Deighj Adele Jr that works for me was born and raised in Alaska, and I learned to drop the L in salmon will quick….She’d be like no you are not going to say Sal-mon….Lol

  71. Ann says:

    Hi ladies.
    Raining again here today!
    I like the name Weina too.

    Getting out of here early to go vote and then to go see A Star is Born with my daughter. Catch up with you guys later today. Maybe we’ll learn more news on SN,hope so!

  72. Janet says:

    I came home and the mailman didn’t take my ballot. I think I can drop it off at the polls tomorrow. I hope so.

    That’s right. Laura mentioned the special name. Yes Lina Weina. Wee wee. lol

    Wish I were rich. No way but you all are more than welcome at my house. Anytime!!

    • Tracie says:

      I missed you today J-Girl…Goldbergs or not Lol….I can’t wait to see what he calls her and Phil saw him once a week until Lina was ready for an overnight visit or until she moves a mile away…

      • Janet says:

        I was near where Kbabe grew up. Mission Viejo. Thought about her just like I think of you when I watch the voice. Tried to visualize you and deigjh talking like Blake. Love it.

        • Tracie says:

          That is my accent Lol…A lot of people think I’m from Tennessee when they try to peg where I’m from, when traveling out of Oklahoma….

          • Tracie says:

            My husband just said to tell you girls if you’ve ever heard Reba talk you’ve heard me talk….Lol

          • Janet says:

            I love Reba. I’ll go watch an interview. I didn’t know Oklahoma accent is different than Tennessee. When kelly clarkson and Blake speak they share the same accent even though she’s from Texas.

          • Tracie says:

            Since you
            live in LA you will get a kick out of this…Blake, Adam and Kelly were coming from the Dallas Airport going to Blake’s ranch in Tisamingo and they got pulled over on a rural road in Oklahoma, Blake slides the van door open and starts to chat it up with
            Deputy Dew Right and Adam panicks telling Blake and Kelly to shut it down they could shoot us…Kelly gets tickled telling Adam we aren’t in LA we are in Oklahoma..Lol.. True story, it was on a little news show we have here….

        • Katie says:

          What were you doing in Mission Viejo? That IS right by where I grew up.

          • Janet says:

            Really? It’s pretty there. Looked at some homes at lader or larder ranch? The Spanish style ones are pretty. Have cousins there.

            Tracie the true story was so funny. I can see Adam saying it. Roll up the windows. Are you nuts Blake. Lol

        • Katie says:

          Ladera Ranch!
          OC is fine, more nice areas than not, but I’m happy not to live there anymore.

  73. Tracie says:

    I have another thought…do you girls think that during Phil’s weekly visits with Liam (when Kim wasn’t there) Phil told Liam about his siblings and Lina…Maybe when he got about 6 months old showed him a wallet photo of his family, so Liam could associate a face with a name…How many times did we all sit with our babies in our laps going over those first baby books saying dog or cat….

  74. Tracie says:

    Girls, I have a game for us….Laura will never confirm or deny, but she did say that whatever Liam called Lina was kind of funny…So let’s guess…we’ll probably all be off, but it will be funny: I’m going with WiWi or Wiener…

  75. Laura says:

    Thank you Ann! That’s very sweet of you!
    I did get lots done today. I’m about to write a swoon scene for Tracie lol

    • Tracie says:

      Swoon me baby swoon me….Oh yeah!!!! Laura I’m so glad you said what you did about Nick and Lina…I was fearing the next book the girls referenced would be Mutiny On the Bounty….

  76. Ann says:

    Laura – I’m glad Liam is ok!! Did you get a lot accomplished today? Hope so!

    Katie, I’m glad you like Reasonable Doubt. I read this a couple of years ago so I don’t remember the whole story. But, Andrew is a real treat and I loved the college intern. Actually I have forgotten a lot but loved the series.

    I just have to say that Laura’s writing has spoiled me. Other books just don’t measure up!

  77. Laura says:

    I love you guys!

    Katie and Tracie are spot on with their thoughts on Nick/Lina.

    Ann — Liam has no health issues!

  78. Katie says:

    Girls. Reasonable Doubt by Whitney G is turning out to be quite good. I think it was Ann’s recommendation, so thanks, A. Janet, how is Mr. Masters?

    • Janet says:

      I’m out. Once a week they film dumb shows on my street(goldbergs and something), and it gets messy and loud. I can’t read till 5. I’ll start this week. I’m finishing up a Kathryn shay this week. Try Whitney G ‘s Ethan duet. Her more recent ones are misses.

  79. Ann says:

    Ladies I agree. That would be my ending.
    Something that Laura mentioned previously about a difficult sad scene she wrote made me wonder if something might be wrong with Liam. Maybe something medical. I’m probably way off base with this and I hope I am. Laura is realistic not LMN, so I’m sure I’m wrong!!

    • Tracie says:

      Ann anything could happen at this point. Janet and I read a book that had the same ending you just described.

    • Katie says:

      I’m thinking a sad scene about Liam is Phil acknowledging all of the animosity surrounding his son. How much is has hurt his family…Liam’s mother is horrible…but he’s just an innocent child, Phil’s child, and Phil’s at a loss at how to make it right. Liam is effectively being raised by a nanny and has a part-time dad. Sad.

  80. Tracie says:

    No matter what happens, depending on if Kim’s family are decent people, Phil and Lina would let them have visitation….(I think)

  81. Tracie says:

    I think the same as Katie…but depending on what Laura does, she could possibly give Kim visitation. Kim probably wouldn’t come see him anyway..but it could happen.

  82. Katie says:

    Ann, I think it will end with Kim giving up Liam to Lina and Phil. And they will raise him as their own. Kim will be on to some other “better, hotter” married man and have no use for her son or Phil. She’s just that evil.

    • Janet says:

      Omg I don’t agree with either of you. I don’t see justice in Kim getting a hotter better Phil. Basically you are telling me she gets someone like Nick. Bahahaha. No thank you. This girl needs to suffer. So far as we know
      Everyone else is suffering but Kim. However, if I think of Liam and how he still loves his mom then that’s when I get confused.

  83. Tracie says:

    Nick wouldn’t have let his inner beast go after Lina, because she was to wrapped up in Phil. Remember when they were eating and Lina got aggravated at Nick for saying Phil didn’t deserve Lina and that whatever trauma she had suffered was not a basis for a solid relationship, etc…In Chapter 10, where Lina wanted to believe Phil was a victim in the affair, but Nick said he’s no victim, the marina scene her bolting…That’s why I believe he sent her home that morning at the end of Chapter 29…he also saw it in Chapter 48 when she had her ring on at the restaurant and the hospital scene finding her way into Phil’s arms and not leaving his side….I guess Nick is still waiting in the wings, based on the snippet Laura showed us in SN….I almost feel sorry for Nick, Lina reeled him in to help take care of her and Katie’s problems, help soothe her soul without reward….. I just want to say, Phil was paying for those services, just not with his wife, as he so hotly put it in (I think) Chapter 12….Lol

  84. Ann says:

    Here’s my two cents.
    From Lina’s perspective her and Phil were soul mates. As Alice put it, two halves of a whole. They were so together spiritually and physically and when Phil had the affair he decimated Lina. So when Lina started getting strong vibes from Nick I think it made her feel something. Can you imagine your hot husband going on a 4 month bender with the wicked with of the west, an attractive woman 10 years younger. Then all the torment with the text messages, pictures, etc. I don’t fault Lina but I don’t think she should have lead Nick on.

    I would like to hear your thoughts on how you think SN should end.

    • Tracie says:

      I agree with that Ann, except Nick was already giving strong vibes prior to Phil’s confession. Remember when Lina told Nick she thought he was having an affair and she had started initiating sex, etc…What did Nick do when she left??? He shut the door, leaned his head against it and said Fuck….The vibes were there and Lina knew it…but didn’t want to admit it or give in to them….at the graduation Phil even told Lina to get her mind off the handsome doctor…Phil picked up on it immediately.

  85. Tracie says:

    LOL I am stubborn…I’m just saying the attraction was there before the affair and Lina let it run hotter after Phil’s confession. Thus, the meaning when Laura says a perfect storm…In WPF, they both turned from each other, seeking the answers(Nick and Lina) and solace (Phil and Kim) from another, instead of each other…

  86. Janet says:

    Lol you are so stubborn. Nick basically saved Katie. Lina was grateful to Nick which turned to admiration and attraction but if Phil didn’t do what he did, Lina would have never taken it further. The reason I said Nick wasn’t for Lina is because he never went after her or fought for her knowing he loved her.

  87. Tracie says:

    The reason I haven’t asked about the climactic scene is because Laura said no hints today ladies…which means Not Happening….I’m hoping she gets a guy that’s and Ass Alpha…”Bitch you can come if you want, but not putting up with you’re stupid shit with that lawyer and his wife…” I’ve always said prison is a good option…

  88. Janet says:

    Katie, I completely agree with you on covers. My images of hero are never the guys on the cover. Well you know this already. I tried posting couple comments last night but I think they didn’t post.

    As far as Lina betraying Phil, yes on emotional cheating and that’s bad but it was more reactionary on Linas part after Phil hurt her. How can we blame her for that? When Phil cheated, her eyes finally opened. She told Adele she never even looked at another man until She suspected Phil of cheating and all that kissing stuff came after Phil moved out so it doesn’t bother me at all.

    • Tracie says:

      J-Girl I don’t believe Lina betraying Phil was reactionary because Phil hurt her….She started gravitating toward Nick prior to her learning about the affair. She felt comfortable enough with him to admit her suspicions about the affair prior to Phil’s confession.

      • Katie says:

        They were emotionally involved prior to Phil’s affair. Phil knew, but not to what extent, and was clearly threatened and insecure about it.

  89. Janet says:

    How come nobody’s asking if the climactic scene is the “realistic ending” to Kim demise? I think Kim is fooling around with someone. When I asked Laura couple months back if Kim is dating or having sex she said “that’s interesting.” Lol. I don’t know what that means but I say Kim found a Phil look alike and is using him for her nightly needs. He can be a narcotics cop with Baltimore PD and when she ends the affair and screws him over he pays her back by planting 20 lbs of coke in her office. Bye Kim.
    The thing is if Kim is around, Hunters will never find peace. Phil needs full custody not joint. That means Kim is either disbarred or happy with someone else. But I don’t see the justice in her being happy so I put her in prison

  90. Tracie says:

    Lina did admit it to Adele and Nick, but never to Phil. The marina scene she did say I feel guilty to Nick and he told her not to overthink it that they did nothing wrong..but the intimacy of the kiss and her feeling his erection against her tummy told her different…and it should have. Not just the intimacy, but the butterflies she had in her stomach, also pushed those feelings of guilt…Phil knew she housed guilt, but didn’t know to what extent. Remember the scene where he came to pickup the kids for church and she and Knight were outside. Phil told her not to see Nick until after the separation agreement. Chapter 43 was the turning point for Phil, when he realized Lina had not slept with Nick…..

    • Katie says:

      I think Lina told Phil indirectly that she was attracted to Nick. She said she liked talking to him, and she was evasive in that scene when Phil met Nick and realized he was handsome- Lina saying something like, “maybe I didn’t notice…” Phil definitely knew.

  91. deighj says:

    Ann, I never faulted Lina for anything in WPF. I always saw redemption in terms of Phil alone. Laura and Sugar always saw that Lina betrayed Phil as well. She enjoyed Nick’s attention and looked forward to seeing him. Much the same as Phil did with Kim. She just didn’t follow through on it. I don’t think she ever would have. It was a couple of posts between Sugar and Laura that opened my eyes to Lina’s guilt. It was a revelation. I do have a question though. I don’t recall Lina ever apologizing or admitting that attraction to Phil. Did that happen in WPF, or will it be discussed in SN? Perhaps it’s irrelevant at this point.

  92. Ann says:

    You know Tracie, now that I read that nightmare scene from Phil, I’m understanding that he is vulnerable when it comes to Lina. As a strong dominent alpha personality that is Phil, he still can show weakness. To me that is why I think he fell from grace when he hooked up with the witch. He is still wrong for what he did, but I’m understanding him a little better. Love getting his POV, it makes it show much better.

    Dark rainy day here in MD.

    • Tracie says:

      Phil is all Alpha, but he’s human. He does have vulnerabilities just doesn’t show them to the world. Lina got a glimpse in that scene, which shows us the reader how his existence was without Lina…he was lost….Just goes to show us that you can’t judge a book or person by its cover…to error is human to forgive is divine.

  93. Ann says:

    your thinking. lol

    • Tracie says:

      Ann there have been times when Janet and I have thought we were super sleuths, but realized we only thought we were when it came to figuring out SN…LOL. A

  94. Ann says:

    Tracie, I like you’re thinking. Damn, I just can’t wait for SN to be done!!! I have been consumed with The Hunters since I read this book in January. This is one of my top books ever!

  95. Tracie says:

    Girls, the reason the Little custody comment got my adrenaline rush going, whether it was with Kim or not, was because in WPF, Phil always said my son….Lina wondered what her place would be in Liam’s life. I said early on that Liam would have to become a team effort or the marriage would struggle….Knowing SN is full disclosure and Lina is involved in custody decisions shows me Phil is not leaving Lina on the bench, but pulling her into the game….Im sure that Kim has told Phil he’s my son not hers or something similar in SN and maybe Phil might have thought to himself, no he’s our son when he’s with me and Lina. Phil realizing the importance of Lina’s influence and interaction of all things Liam. Also, not wanting his wife on the outside of anything that includes him..

  96. Ann says:

    OMG, I just read the blog from end of September/October. I found two awesome snippets from Laura that were off the charts. The one where Phil is at the hospital meeting Liam and tries to give the baby back to Kim and she says no, so our Phil walks down to the nursery with Liam with Kim running after him, etc. I loved it!!
    Then the second one when Phil wakes up from a nightmare that he was still living in that rental house during the separation and told Lina he was lost without her!!!!

    Please excuse me, I knows you guys have already read this but this is new to me.

  97. Laura says:

    Good morning ladies!
    I am at the climatic scene so no hints today.
    It’s a rainy day here in the East.
    Ann- I remember Perry Mason and the mink stoles — my grandmother had one.

  98. Tracie says:

    Comment said scene with Lina and Phil discussing his custody agreement with Kim.

    • Tracie says:

      Now I have a different perspective…they could of been discussing the custody agreement between each other and not with Kim…

  99. Ann says:

    Deighj – I missed the custody scene too! I think Tracie may be able to help out with this. As far as other books you mentioned, The Mitchell Sisters’ series is really good. I think the first one in the series is the best. Has lots of angst.
    Katie – So your 34 girl? You are refreshing. My oldest daughter is 34! You mentioned book covers. Some of these male models on some of these covers are hot. Are you familiar with M. Robinson’s books. She has a guy on the cover of El Diablo who is so good looking. He is on other covers as well with Vi Keeland’s books. I agree with you on one thing, Phil was a moron. I love him, but in my opinion Phil had a moment of weakness because Lina was pulling away from him with all the Katie drama. It’s no excuse but Phil being Phil needed to feel needed with some sort of physical connection and he got it from that witch. It still makes me sick to think he would do it. I can’t wait to get inside of his head in SN. That’s what I’ve been waiting for.
    Janet – You mentioned calling Amazon, thanks for the tip with the code. Amazon’s customer service is pretty good. I’ve ordered books by mistake before because my fingers are quick and called them up and they handle it right away.
    Tracie – You mentioned that the custody snippet was right before your surgery. Was that recent? I’m going to go back through the blog. I really love your thoughts on Phil, by the way.

    No word from Laura, I’m guessing she’s working non-stop. Laura hope we get to hear from you later today.

    Have you ladies ever read anything from Karen Robards? Some of her older books are awesome (One Summer, and Hunters Moon). She writes a good romance with suspense. Her male leads are great and there is no insta love in her plots.

    This is completely off the subject, but my husband is watching an old Perry Mason episode right now. (you guys probably don’t remember that show because its so old). Any how, a woman on the show is wearing a mink stole with the heads of the mink still on it. OMG, how gross. Can you see PETA on this. I know I’m crazy, but had to share this.

    • Tracie says:

      It’s just a comment about a scene she is working on, nor the scene itself. Janet jad asked what she was working on since I missed asking that day….I can’t wait to read that scene and love the fact that Lina is doing it with Phil. I know how I missed it. I was on narcotics….Lol

    • Katie says:

      Tracie is so good to Phil, and she is making me a better person.

    • Katie says:

      Re: covers. I really like symbolism. A body part, object, or even just artistic shapes/shadows/colors can say more than a good body. When the man or woman on the cover fits the character in the book, it works. But so often they are unrelated.

  100. deighj says:

    Downloaded We All Fall Down by Logan Chance last night. Don’t know when I’ll get around to it. I think I told y’all I have 122 books on my Kindle, It’s higher now since I’m haunting the blog. Can’t stay away though I do shut down and read in the evenings. I get several chapters in, get bored and switch. I always finish a book, plowing through or skimming boring parts. But haven’t been able to do that this past year. Is this called a book hangover? If it is I never ever want to go through one again.

  101. deighj says:

    Kbabe, covers do mean a lot to me. If the synopsis is intriguing I forget about the cover and read anyway. Most of the covers feature men who look much too young for the character described. I fell in love with your picture of John Hamm. I could look at him all day.

  102. deighj says:

    Has Laura given any clues or snippets as to when Lina comes face to face with Kim for the first time?

  103. deighj says:

    Sugar just read your comment regarding custody agreement. Did I miss something, again? I thought it was Phil and Lina discussing custody. Good morning by the way. I’m just catching up on the posts from last evening.

  104. Katie says:

    I settled on Reasonable Doubt by Whitney G. And I think White Lilies after that. I was a little intrigued by the Adultery Club by Tess Stimson because of the OW perspective. Not sure I can take on another cheating theme though, so we’ll see.
    Curious girls, how important are covers to you? I’m so visual I have a hard time reading books with bad covers. I’m so shallow!

  105. Tracie says:

    I just got an adrenaline rush…Lol. Every time I need a swoon scene I go back and read my nightmare scene the day before my surgery…I did that tonight and noticed a comment from Laura on the day of surgery how I missed it is beyond me but she was working on a scene that day and she said Lina and Phil were discussing his custody agreement with Kim..That is monumental for me that Lina and Phil are together with Kim discussing custody..You go Lina…also shows me Lina and Phil are a united front when it comes to Kim

  106. Janet says:

    I got Mr masters! Let me know if you want Ann or Deighj’s list.
    Hey, how about Alec Baldwin as Phil? Just kidding! I was reading about his arrest and thought about Phil and nick in a brawl.

  107. Katie says:

    Unsticky was a good read. Tonight I’m going to look through summaries for the books mentioned here. So many I’ve never heard of! What would I do without you girls.

  108. Janet says:

    shes self absorbed, self centered and just selfish. I don’t want to forgive her. Do you? If she had a bad past?

    • Tracie says:

      No I’m not forgiving her…She’s not a victim in anyway shape or form. Kim feeds off people’s misery. I guarantee her past is just like her present a path of narcissistic destruction….

      • Katie says:

        Everyone has shit in their lives that they could use to justify unbecoming behaviors. Tracie, you were betrayed, but you don’t go around being horrible to people. It would just be an excuse if Kim had a “reason” to be how she is. She’s just bad at her core. There’s no redemption for Kim.

        • Tracie says:

          That’s your difference in Phil and Kim Kbabe…He was the betrayer and he’ll do anything to make it right, because he loves Lina. He doesn’t want to hurt Lina anymore, he wants to make amends in anyway he can. Kim doesn’t care at all…in fact with her narcissistic tendencies she probably feels like Lina is breaking her family up…she wants to continue to shred Lina to get Phil…That’s why the affair was only a physical connection, no way in Hell could Phil connect on an emotional level with such a sadistic witch….Lina is his everything and is kind to a fault…

  109. deighj says:

    Sugar, I too have muscle spasms a lot. Had to get up sometime last night and take Advil. The only thing that keeps them away is Calcium, Magnesium and Zinc vitamins. They come in a huge bottle and I buy the largest I can find. My coworker’s pregnant wife had really bad cramps and that’s what she took so he gave me a bottle after she delivered. Sitting for hours in a chair for hours can do that to you. In addition you’ve had a nasty surgery. I got the vitamins, now if I can just remember to take them.

    • Tracie says:

      Thanks Deighj I’ll ask about the supplements Thursday when I see the doctor…

      J-Girl her Past may help explain her behavior but in my book it will never condone it…Phil wasn’t a victim he became a volunteer when he gave in to Kim…Kim trapped him no doubt…in SN Phil is going to have to live by the old saying: Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me….Phil is going to have to protect Lina, because that’s the only way Kim gets any attention out of Phil is by hurting Lina…

  110. deighj says:

    Kbabe, after the first night between Phil and Kim she knew his preference for going in nude. I can’t imagine Phil not discussing prevention with her. He wasn’t lust filled 24/7. I think she made that decision all on her own. I wonder if this issue will be discussed in SN?

    • Katie says:

      Phil was just a moron. Even if she said she was on the pill, would have an abortion, whatever, he was still a moron to believe her. She would sleep with a married man. To me that makes her untrustworthy and unethical. He had to be insane. There’s no other explanation. Was going raw worth it to you, guy?
      Maybe Kim will get disbarred for unethical activities. Or get charged with sexual harassment in the workplace. That would be a hoot.

      • Janet says:

        tell me how you really feel. You know Phil is basically Laura’s husband. We can’t call him names kbabe! I don’t know why the condom thing doesn’t really bother me. I feel like it goes with the story no? The only time I’m curious about is the first time but I don’t think I’ll find that out. You are right we are so OCD. Let’s come up with a realistic scenario of how to get Kim in prison for a long time.

        • Katie says:

          Haha! That came out a little more forceful than I intended. It wouldn’t have been a story without the baby. Lina kept saying it over and over about how Kim was pregnant, Phil had a baby with another woman, nothing could change that. Without the baby, I’m not sure “getting over” the affair would’ve been that difficult. So if was necessary for the story, but I’m feeling impassioned about all of the “Phils” our there. Dummies.

  111. deighj says:

    Sorry J, thought it was our Sugar who commented on Purple Orchids. I also ASSUMED by reading the synopsis that “When A Man Loves A Woman” was the book you referred to. I checked both that and Count on me by skimming which wasn’t wise. Gotta have Count On Me as well.
    I never heard When A Man Loves A Woman by Bolton. The original version by Percy Sledge was my older sister’s favorite song, we listened to it endlessly. Utube version stinks, it isn’t clear, the words seem to be muddled. But then Bolton wasn’t any better.

  112. Janet says:

    Would we respect her more or understand her better if we knew her past? Not likely unless we want to forgive her. But none of us want that.
    I think Tracie May be right if we have to keep it realistic. She needs the next victim. God help him because Laura won’t.

  113. Janet says:

    Hmmm. Don’t buy it. This woman acts like a privileged bitch. Her ruthlessness doesn’t come from survival instincts. It’s more of an attitude of the world is at her feet. She was after Phil because she really fell in love with him(how she perceives love) not money. Of course she has her standards but if money was her object she wouldn’t be with Phil. And Kim’s narcissism is innate not a learned behavior of trying to better her station in life. Maybe the dad is a judge.

  114. deighj says:

    J-Girl I just re-read a cute book by Shelley Galloway “Baby Makes Six.” Four months after separation a couple slips up and she gets pregnant. They already have 3 girls. They are divorced after that. He has moved on dating a Kindergarten (?) teacher, about to take it up a level. The teacher is his dream girl and really fits what he always wanted in married life. The ex is afraid to tell him she’s preggers. This is re-read for me, a short read about 250 pages. At times I like cheesy.
    Please keep that list…gold to me.

  115. deighj says:

    Sugar, redemption is what I look for in every book whether there’s cheating or just general angst by one of the partners. But if it does contain cheating I expect groveling and a lot of it. If my husband said “I admit what I did wrong, said I was sorry. You need to just get over it.” Now that is throwing gasoline on a fire to me. I’d burn the house down with him in it. This isn’t referring to our duet this is in general. SN is going to answer all of our remaining questions.
    Do you go into work early tomorrow, how’s your hip? You start your 10 hour days this week don’t you?

    • Tracie says:

      I usually get up at 4:30am and at my desk by 6…I’ve been working from 11:30 to 4:30 and will do the same this week. What’s bothering me the most is muscle spasms in my legs and lower back, I know it’s from not getting any exercise…I swear I’m turning into a fossil, my muscles are wasting away….

      P.S. Phil is redeemable…I promise Lol

  116. deighj says:

    Ktdid, while Purple Orchids deals with college life White Lilies deals with one of the sisters meeting a couple who asks her to be their surrogate. There’s drama, and sadness in places, but the wife pushes Skylar and her husband together. I have it on my TBRR list.
    As for Purple Orchids, Sugar’s right in that it’s a really good book. I read a lot of books with characters collage age. And you will want to kick some butt. Another college series of 5 books is Blue Love by MJ Fields.

    • Janet says:

      The book I was talking About is Count on Me by Kathryn shay.

      Im not a big fan of Michael Bolton but I can see that song playing when Phil is with Lina.

      Can you tell me a good cheating hero book that you remember? You seem to remember all the titles. I read mj fields. I didn’t like it. The writing was bad I thought.

      • Tracie says:

        I’ve been thinking about Laura’s comment, where Kim’s family is not like her…What if her family is just middle class working folks and she has always wanted more, never satisfied with what they could provide, etc…Kim strives to get into Ivy League schools and made her way to the big time…When she saw Phil she saw the life she has always strived for, a handsome powerful man, respect. and wealth….I wondering if Lina will get to meet them and if so how they will receive her…They may even like her better than Kim..

        • Katie says:

          Even if they aren’t like Kim, and don’t care for Kim’s “ways,” and really like Lina, I can still foresee them being conflicted about Phil. Because he did cheat on his wife and get his mistress pregnant. But he is also being a stand-up guy by stepping up for Liam.

          • Tracie says:

            Probably so Katie, they would worry about his morals not knowing him….I bet Kim was one of the mean girls in HS…

  117. deighj says:

    Ann, J-Girl, the name of that book by Kathryn Shay is “When A Man Loves A Woman.” Already got it.
    J, does that remind you of the song Laura mentioned Phil and Lina dancing to in SN?

    • Tracie says:

      I can’t wait to see how that song is referenced and hope they are dancing with their eye connection or his head buried in her neck…tenderly kissing her would be great too….I need a swoon snippet….I love Phil and Lina..

  118. deighj says:

    Just read a funny quote from a friend which I think all woman can relate to. “My stomach is flat. The L is just silent.”
    I hope I didn’t offend anyone posting this but I just read two of the funniest posts sent to me. The second one is the funniest but too long.

  119. Tracie says:

    We talked about Phil’s secretary and she probably knew when him and Kim were the only two traveling…remember Diane told Lina that Wayne told her Phil was discreet…

  120. deighj says:

    Sugar you’re right. Alice got married in July. I did what I swore I wouldn’t do back in May. I pulled my hard copy off the shelf. I read WPF late last year and lived with it until May bombarding Laura with my rants and scenarios. I couldn’t sleep with those constantly on my mind. I consulted marriage workbooks and spewed that at Laura. I even read WPF backwards examining each chapter for questions or possibilities of redemption. I truly made an ass of myself and Laura forgave me every time. I’ve kept that vow I made until today. So when I tell you I’m obsessed with this duet it’s true.

    • Katie says:

      You’re probably part of the reason we are getting a duet, so thank you.
      Mitchell Sisters White Lillies looks intense but interesting, do you think I can handle it?

    • Tracie says:

      Me too Deighj, but I’m more obsessed with how they are going to come out on the other side of the affair, than I am with the actual affair…It happened…but it will be Lina helping Phil to forgive himself…As he said several times in WPF, he will spend the rest of his life making it up to Lina and I believe that wholeheartedly…..

  121. Ann says:

    Laura, Hope your Dad makes out OK. Hope you have lots of family around for support.

    That would be funny if our Mom’s ever crossed paths. I grew up in Linthicum Heights. You probably have never heard of this place. It’s northern AA County.

    According to Laura’s answer about Kim’s mom and sister, they are probably normal and nice if they’re not like Kim! That will be interesting. Kim’s like the bad seed. She looks sweet but evil as shit.

    Thought of something when I was leaving BJ’s parking lot. I saw a young couple with a little boy who was really acting up getting out of the car. I mean he was screaming. Us moms all know what that’s like. I was just wondering how Phil is going to deal with Liam when he acts up especially at this time in his life. We all know that Lena was the full time care giver of their toddlers while Phil was getting his career started; however, I think until Lena bonds with Liam, it will be Phil’s responsibility. I do hope Lena bonds with Liam. I would love a HEA for them!

    Well, I’m going to go back to the Ravens game. They need prayers today!

  122. Katie says:

    Has anyone been keeping a list of the book recommendations?

    • Janet says:

      Omg I read the comments just now. Spawn of the devil wasn’t spawned by the devil? Kim is a chromosomal aberration? Realistic ending means she will probably fall in love with a good looking tycoon and gets pregnant? Omg I’m getting ahead of myself but this girls hair needs to fall out from stress of Phil’s verbal abuse and lose her job so she has to move to Alaska to practice law. Maybe even to Saudi Arabia at this point. Arggghh

      Ktdid, you like this nickname better? I see you as Katie because you have attitude like Linas daughter. Your the babe of this group. Kbabe maybe? Lol. I got the list. I can copy and repost.

      Ann, Kathryn shay writes school settings I think. She wrote another decent one about a HS counselor(my job before I had kids) and a doctor. I’ll have to look for the title but he dates the heroine then cheats on her with his ex wife and suffers. I loved seeing him lose sleep and age 10 yrs after he does that.

  123. deighj says:

    Tracie, what book were you and Laura referring to in your earlier posts? I’m still bouncing between. Our Christmas traditions start Thanksgiving evening. Looking forward to SN in hand reminds me of how eagerly I anticipated Christmas morning as a child. I hope that makes sense.

    Ktdid, that’s perfect! I never considered Phil’s secretary. I’m sure Wayne wasn’t the only one aware of Kim’s pursuit of Phil. Given how closely a legal secretary works with her boss, his out of office visiting her apartment, how could she not be aware? Kim didn’t care who knew, she probably laughed knowing everyone knew Lina but couldn’t do a thing about the situation. BTW I thought of Katydid but not seriously, those things are grasshoppers. Hence my out of ideas comment.

  124. Janet says:

    People are up!! It would have been so good to see your daughter here. Super super type A. LOL

    Don’t worry about us. We will keep busy while you take care of your dad. Do you have a dozen scenes left?

    My kids are away today and it feels really weird to be at home without them on a weekend. Will keep busy today.

    • Laura says:

      I have about three scenes to write until I reach the place in the novel where Lina meets Liam for the first time — then the two halves of the book merge (Remember when I went back to the beginning to add a few scene? I basically added half of a novel). At that point I’ll do some fine tuning to existing scenes and then I’ll be at the tail end of the novel. So 12 is probably a good guess

  125. Laura says:

    Thanks Tracie.
    I forgot to answer Ann’s question about Kim’s family. All I’ll say is that they aren’t like Kim

  126. Laura says:

    Go Ravens!

    And on a more serious note — my father needs to have carotid artery surgery. Not sure how this will play into the next couple of weeks — needless to say it has had a severe impact on my writing schedule

  127. Laura says:

    Ann — maybe our mothers knew each other! My mother spent a lot of time in Annapolis (if you grew up around here). She lived there at one point — she had a wide group of liked-minded friends. And you are right about Phil — he was selfless in a lot of ways but many readers couldn’t see past the affair — they couldn’t see any of the good.
    Tracie — no flash-back to Christmas party but it is alluded to
    Deighj — Lina’s father is a quirky character — he brings some needed lightness to the story.
    I didn’t mention Adele but she is prominent in SN
    Katie — my twenty-three-year-old daughter tried to post last night (I have to approve the first post and didn’t!) She basically wanted to give everyone her assessment of me — I told her it didn’t count because she has met me lol. All I’ll say is that she sees me as an A-type mother. In fact the language was “super super type A” LOL.

  128. Tracie says:

    Girls…take note we are one week from SN going to the editor Nov 11th….I’m so excited…..

  129. Ann says:

    hi deighj:
    Thank you for your kind words. I love the blog but I’m just hoping I can keep up with it. It’s very addicting just like WPF. I am going to check out the Green Bayou books too. I’m excited getting new books to read. I’ve just started a book last night A Price Worth Paying by Kathyrn Shay. One of you ladies suggested that book earlier. I’ve only read one chapter and wow. The wife’s pregnant by another man and hubby gets charged for sexual assault of a student.

    I’ve always been Team Phil even though he frustrates me sometimes. I love how he’s always been so sure and confident of himself even as a teenager. He was slated to go to Duke but switched to Maryland with no problem just so he could be with Lena. No questions asked. I love that about his character.

    Laura – I awlays loved Alice’s character. I read where you said she was based off your mom. It’s funny because my mom (God rest her soul) believed in the reincarnation stuff, etc. I was in my teens (1970s) when my mom joined The Spiritual Frontiers. lol. My girlfriends always thought she was so cool because no one talked about stuff like that back then. So reading Alice’s POV is just a hoot. I love her. I’m glad you kept Adele in SN because she’s awesome too.

    Laura – Have you already discussed Kim’s mother and sister. I was just wondering what type of folks they are? Nicer than Kim? I know I’m behind and you have already covered a lot of discussions, but I was just curious.

    Of course you probably know by now that I’m the oldest one in the group, 63 and counting! Not that it matters. I love to read and I love this group of ladies.

    • Tracie says:

      Laura is there a scene or flashback where Phil is at the firm Christmas party without Lina?

    • Katie says:

      Ann, I’m 34, and I worry about my age in this group as well. My age certainly shows through at times. But we all love to read, and we love Laura, so it couldn’t be a more perfect union.

  130. deighj says:

    Morning Katie. I looked at Mr. Masters but it didn’t appeal to me until I read the comments on here. My TBR is getting longer and longer. Happy that J has those snapshots.

  131. deighj says:

    Thanks Laura, I posted to Ann before your answers popped up. I hope your dad’s better and you’ve found reliable home health. Are you working today or taking a break.

  132. deighj says:

    Good morning Ann. I have read Broken Road and I think Laura mentioned that book awhile back but not sure. The Green Bayou books look interesting as well.
    I’m lost as to the month when Phil moved back home. It had to’ve (is that even a word?) been several months after Christmas and then summer for Alice’s wedding. I’m lost.
    As for the time change I forgot as well, thanks for reminding me. Why did it take you so long to join us? You stated you had been reading the blog for awhile before introducing yourself. I am so glad you did. Were you originally team Lina or team Phil? Laura has said she would place me in the middle. I guess that means I swing both ways hahaha.

  133. Ann says:

    Mr. Master’s is a good book. I think he’s a judge, but he has a hot kinky side to him too!

    Off to food store. Need to get back to hopefully watch Ravens kick the Steeler’s ass! We can only hope.

    • Katie says:

      It is a little kinky, but because it’s so funny it didn’t come off weird to me. I love love love the conversations the main characters have with their friends.

  134. Laura says:

    Ann- No Lifetime movie here. The ending will be realistic based on how I see the characters.

  135. Laura says:

    Tracie — how did you like the book? I haven’t read it but I want to.

    • Tracie says:

      I liked it…the hero was a broken man with a lot of guilt, but once he got past he turned the relationship around with the heroine and they got their HEA….I did read one thing I really liked…canLina wrap her arms around Phil’s waist inside his suit jacket…Doesn’t that seem hot….I don’t know why those little possessive touches do it for me but that do…Lol

  136. Laura says:

    Good morning!

    Deighj — Ann is right. SN begins the morning Lina tells Phil to come home. Lina’s parents are in the book but their roles are insignificant.
    Megan is also only in it a small portion of the time because she is away at college. Shiloh hasn’t made an appearance at all.
    There are some new characters through Lina’s work and Phil’s secretary occasionally pops up. Also we meet Kim’s parents and sister. There are several scenes involving Nick. Logan and Brian are still best friends. Matt and Katie are still a couple. And of course we see a lot of Liam.

    • Katie says:

      I bet Phil’s secretary knew what he was up to during the affair. And she probably knows Lina very well. I hate what you did, Phil.
      And I bet Kim had bragged to her sister about the hot AF married attorney that she was going to bag. Tramp.

  137. Ann says:

    Morning my fellow sisters!
    I forgot about the time change until I woke up this morning. My phone started going off at 3 a.m. with an Amber Alert. Scared the crap out of me. Always scares me at that time of night because I think of my daughters.

    Deighj, I think Laura said SN picks up right after Shiloh’s accident, 3 months before Alice’s wedding.

    Laura, I hope you can share something new with us today.

    I am thinking about how SN will end. Laura said she has the ending, but I can’t imagine it yet. Is evil Kim just going to go on with life as she knows it or will something big happen? I guess I’m feeling Lifetime Movie drama here, but that’s not Laura’s MO, and that’s why Laura is a damn good author. She writes real life! Of course, I would love for Kim to get her just dues.

    Here’s another good book for you guys. Reasonale Doubt by Whitney G. It’s 3 short books, but if you read all 3 it’s like reading a regular size book. The main guy, Andrew, is a brilliant hot attorney. Sound like Phil? lol. The dialogue is really good, not as good as Laura, but good.

  138. deighj says:

    Laura, question about WPF. At the end of chapter 48 Lina tells Phil she wants him to come home. It’s after Christmas so exactly when did Phil move back home. I would think the next day. How long after the ending of WPF does SN pick up? I know that has been mentioned several times but the answer eludes me tonight. Will Lina’s dad be a big part of the Hunter’s life given the animosity felt toward him?

  139. Janet says:

    Katie, a huge hug and a big wet kiss for the link. I just ordered one for me, my sister, my sister in law, and my friend in NY. LOL. I’ll report back once I get them.

    Deighj, I sure loved your posts tonight! My hands shook from laughing as I scrolled down. You are a giant heart I tell you. I hope your kids appreciate you.

    Tracie you crack me up everyday.

    Ann, check back tomorrow. I downloaded Rhonda Dennis. I never heard of her. So many new books for me to try next week.

    • deighj says:

      J-Girl tell me, tell me please which Rhonda Dennis book. Not familiar with her. Ya know J we got Sugar and J-Girl for Tracie and yourself, we need to come up with a moniker for Katie. Thought about this, but plumb out of ideas.
      Katie what nickname do those close to you use for you. One that you like.
      And then there’s Ann, can’t leave her out in the rain.
      I’m overly tired tonight so not making sense. Will probably face plant tomorrow Sweet dreams my lovely’s.

      • Janet says:

        Ann recommended Broken Road To Forever by Rhonda Dennis. She said teary. I took snapshots of all the recommendations from you guys. I can tell you if you forget. I will keep track for us.

  140. deighj says:

    Katie, think this one is a little tame for your taste but I like Aylessa Leon’s Appleby books, thought I would try Love is Purple. He’s a QC, she’s a minister’s church mouse daughter, at first glance. Sounds interesting with a female associate openly after him. Her mum is talking husband-hunting to the mouse And he overhears. Instant drama.
    Good evening all, hope your day was as lovely as mine.

    • Janet says:

      What is QC? This sounds good too.

      • deighj says:

        J-Girl I think Queen’s Council. You can go to her blog and read excerpts of her books. I was up way early this morning and now I’m cross-eyed sleepy but couldn’t help checking back to see what y’all might have gotten up to.

  141. Katie says:

    Ann- it has been so lovely seeing your name today.
    Tracie- did you get to the foot wanking in Mr. Masters?
    Janet- I put the jeans link up where we were talking about it.
    Deighj- I like age gap and some taboo. I like stories where the couple overcomes some major social or familial barrier to be together. And I do like some erotica in there.

    Going to dinner now!! ?

    • Tracie says:

      I’m pass the foot wanking and she’s at Emerson’s after her and Julian had a bad night at a fund raiser and he ignored her

  142. deighj says:

    Sugar pie, that “don’t you fucking dare” was a send up. If you’re half as funny at home, as with us there’s no way you could be anything but.

  143. deighj says:

    Yowza J-Girl, good catch. I wondered why I was at the very top of the blog when I clicked over. Usually I when I’d do I end up right where I am now. Wonder if there’s a correlation.

  144. Janet says:

    You guys. Laura changed some wordings to the don’t you dare scene. I didn’t catch it till now. why did Kim say, no you convinced me to move out of Baltimore. What did Phil have to say to convince her? She planned this all along. She is so sure of herself in the scene starting with “ that was fast.” I can see her sly smile or smirk of satisfaction when Phil calls.

    • Tracie says:

      I hope he he did it to make his and Lina’s life easier…Good for you Phil…

    • deighj says:

      Sorry J, you know Sugar, she’s been up to no good AGAIN. I have a feeling she could entice my inner Lucy-Fir out to play. Then it’s the devil who must pay. Just joking J-Girl, but Sugar does get me started though.

  145. deighj says:

    Katie-Girl, what sort of angst do you look for in romance books? You might enjoy the Mitchell Sisters trilogy, box set on KU. I’ve read first two, White Lillies is my favorite.
    I don’t read paranormal but Aylessa Leon sends a chapter a week that is a really cute romance. You have to sigh up for her newsletter as she sends a different password each week. If interested I’ll send this week’s so you can try it. Start with Merla which is the prequel to Luca then you can click on the Luca chapters. She started with Luca the son of Merla, before she backtracked to start Merla. Her Be Mine and the Appleby series is good as well.
    I AM READY FOR CHRISTMAS…We’ll get our most wanted gift then. My family celebrates the entire month. Little nonsense gifts everyday.

    • Tracie says:

      My daughter just said Christmas all month…I want to live with her…..My daughter is a blast and a doll you would love her Deighj….When she lived at home she designated March as her Palooza birthday month and she should receive a gift everyday…I told her she did receive a gift everyday, they’re called Food, clothing and shelter….

      • deighj says:

        But I did give each of my kids a gift everyday of their birth month. Small and useful plus things I knew they would like. Not expensive though. Try it with your grandchildren the look on their faces will be priceless. Of course you’ll have to have a chat that chores still have to be done. My two would volunteer to do those chores a few days as their gift.

        • deighj says:

          Sugar don’t you fucking dare tell me you’re not a fun mom! Food, clothing and food as gifts…what an idea!

          • Tracie says:

            I am a fun mom I had a washing machine box in my kitchen while my 2 year old grandson made it his house…My granddaughter, grandson, his friend, my son and daughter all here putting in my new washer with my husband….Golf
            Carts…going crazy, four wheelers running through the backyard..It was crazy, but I wouldn’t have it any other way…Lol

  146. Tracie says:

    Janet my daughter just played the scene from star is born where she sings I’ll never love again….if that was Lina singing that song, my Phil would of run and jerked her off that stage and let his lips do the talking….Swoon

  147. deighj says:

    K-Girl, most romances that involve a cheating spouse have redemption and an HEA. I enjoy reading how an author brings about that redemption. Usually there’s not enough groveling for me. But then I am the scorched earth type. I read a lot of books without cheating in them. I mentioned the Blackwood series of four books; two duets about two couples. The MMC from duet one is brother to the FMC in duet two. I can’t remember the story line of the second duet. But when I finished the first duet I thought there isn’t any way the second could match but it did. In the first duet there is a manipulative ex that breaks the MC’s apart for several years. I think there is an ex in the second as well. The first scene in that book the MMC is in jail talking to a woman who I think is the ex. No cheating but both MMC do stupid really well in both books. THE END…of book reports for the day (I think).

  148. deighj says:

    J-Girl how did you lose a tablet in a linen closet? Shades of Sugar there my girl. I laughed out loud twice today thanks to you two.

    • Tracie says:

      Deighj I’m formulating a scenario of all of us going to dinner together…Lol….

      • Ann says:

        Aww dinner sounds nice! You gals have a good evening.

        • deighj says:

          Hey Ann you’ll be right there if Sugar has drag you. And if that ain’t enough remember she’s got Katie and J-Girl as back up. As stated above I’m the innocent in all this. (When and where sugar pie?)

      • deighj says:

        Oh God!!! I just happened to be sitting next to them officer. I was not involved.

        • Tracie says:

          I did get arrested once I’ll have to tell that story one day…I was 17 and couldn’t keep my mouth shut then either Deighj….

    • Janet says:

      Oh I got extra blankets out because it’s cooler at nights now but couldn’t remember. I spoke to some British guy named Walther(it was bizarre talking to a Brit on Amazon). When I asked is there a find your kindle app my husband came in and told me to get off the phone. Walther talked to me for 5 min and helped me reset my old kindle when I said no to discount. So heres a tip. When your WiFi is off on your old kindle and it asks for your passcode this is how you bypass what you don’t have or remember. Punch in 111222777. It’s universal
      I think and it unlocks the kindle.

      • Tracie says:

        Why did your husband tell you to her off the phone?

        • janet says:

          He thinks I’m crazy. I barely know how to track anyone’s phone. Never used that feature and there I am asking how to track a book and that they should install this because it’s not the first time I panicked. It’s fine. I don’t take him seriously.

          • Tracie says:

            Your husband cracks me up….you can’t be bridled J-Girl…I bet he’s a nervous wreck wondering what you’re doing while he is traveling..LOL

          • Janet says:

            Tracie, he said I sound like a 80 yr old when I say things like that. 10 years ago we were traveling abroad and I had my phone off but never turned off the roaming feature. Well i get home and my AT&T cell bill next month was over a thousand. Omg my heart. I started talking out of my ass to get that removed. At one point I think I said “you know I don’t even think I took my phone.” Uhhhh

          • Tracie says:

            Bahahaha you crack me up…I think you are as cute as a bug sister pie….

      • deighj says:

        Thanks J-Girl!

  149. Ann says:

    Ladies, I found the snippet. August 31 is where that scene is located where our Phil tells Kim that she was an easy fuck! I loved it, and I love Phil!!!! hahaha

    • Tracie says:

      It is an awesome snippet….

    • Janet says:

      Yes Ann that’s right. I forgot it was right before school started and I had to deal with orange hair fiasco.
      I’m home and thought of a what if while I was driving home. I know you all hate it but let’s say Phil and kim were together the night before. Maybe in NY. Phil was dreaming about Lina and turns to Kim and whispers Lina and starts having sex with her. Do you think Kim would let him? I think it could have happened and she let him. Phil opens his eyes and they turn hard because Kim isn’t Lina and walks off to take a shower. I’m thinking, could Phil have shunned Kim in steamboat(maybe made her sleep in the guest room) and that made
      Kim take that horrible picture? As revenge? They only stayed one night. Why? It’s not a short plane ride. He could have said. Get dressed. Plans have changed. We are leaving this morning.

      • Tracie says:

        That made my heart race J-Girl…we got to get past SB, it eats you up sister..

        • Janet says:

          You are so nice. You said we when I know it’s mostly me. I think I got past it and it sucked me back in while I was driving. I listened to that song I’ll never love again from a Star is Born and thought of the what if…. I can imagine Lina or Phil listening to this song when they were apart. Go listen.

  150. Ann says:

    Thanks, I’m on it. I think tonight will be carry-out. hahah

  151. Ann says:

    OMG, the scene where Phil tells off Kim, is that in the blog somewhere? Please let me know, asap. I haven’t gotten through all of the blogs yet.

    • Tracie says:

      There is a couple of snippets in the blogs where Phil is shitty to Kim reading Ann…Lol

    • Janet says:

      You read it I think. It starts something like you think you were special? Maybe couple months back. Go through Laura’s long responses. I didn’t yell at my kids for a week after that scene.

      • Tracie says:

        I have a fun scenario about Laura…You know how she takes her laptop everywhere and her friends and family sometimes try to distract her from talking about her characters. why is beyond me…Lol. Well her friends (let’s say 3) invite her out to the movie…Laura is in the middle of a crucial scene and really doesn’t want to go, but her girlfriends are not taking no for an answer and she finally agrees, but warns them in advance “I’m bringing my laptop.” Laura is late and hurrying to get to the movie on time…she only has several lines left until her scene is finished….Her friend Margo sends Laura a text telling her what movie, where they are seated and already have her movie food…Laura gets her ticket heads to her entrance and finds her friends…The movie hasn’t started and the lights are still up in the theater, Laura sits pulls out her Mac and explains to everyone that she just has a few lines then she’ll be all there’s…While Laura finishes her scenes the previews are playing and then a notice comes on that screen that says “please take all crying kids out of the theater…put cellphones on silent and please don’t be using your cellphone so not to disturb other patrons…Margo leans over and says: “Laura you need to put the laptop away the light from that computer could safely land a plane.” Laura looks up adds a period to her last sentence relieved her scene is complete and stores her laptop…Laura is trying to get vested in the movie but notices a young couple in front of her negotiating over who will get the last nacho that actually has cheese on it…as they both lay out their argument about who will get CUSTODY of the cheese covered chip…her creative mind starts running a muck on Kim and Phil’s custody scene. Knowing she can’t use her laptop for notes and her pad that she usually carries in her purse is on the kitchen island with her grocery list…she looks around and leans into Margo saying “Can you hand me that drink carrier by you right leg please?” Margo reaches down and hands Laura the carrier. Laura grabs a pen out of the pocket of her purse collapses the drink container writing her notes….Margo leans over and says “are you really writing a scene on a drink carrier?” Laura says “Yes you want to see?” Margo says
        “No”…Laura thinking my blog girls would have been on that like a shark to blood….The End..Title: NA-CHO Custody…

        • Janet says:

          You kill me. Nacho custody. Margo and drink holder. Omgg. I have a friend named Margo and that’s not a common name. Where you come up with this stuff…. that was so funny. I now want some movie nachos and Wnat to know what Laura wrote on the drink holder. Let’s say it’s raining outside and nobody brought a jacket. I say we stuff that drink holder in Katie’s 1k bag and the bag gets the beating.

          Which reminds me I have a funny Asian women anecdote of sorts on how to tell a real or a fake name brand bag. When it rains some women hold their purses over their heads to block the sudden downpour. Then there are others who hide theirs under their jackets or shirts. That’s when you know your friend has been lying to you about her coveted bag. Ok I’m out and I just found fleece lined leggings and tried them on(I’m in a dressing room). 2 for $5. One size fits all. So comfy. Omg I wish I could send all of you some…

          • Tracie says:

            I just read you tip to my daughter about purses and she said exactly…Her favorite purse is named Clyde and he has to have his own chair in a restaurant…That’s another tip…fake purses get put on the floor designer bags don’t she said..

          • Katie says:

            Omg hilarious. Why can’t we use your Chanel bag? For the record, my Stella bag is the most expensive bag I’ve ever had and an outlier in my collection. It was a “push present,” and if you knew my childbirth story, you’d say I deserved more than a bag.

  152. Ann says:

    OMG, you guys are so fucking funny!!!! (excuse the language). I’ve just finished reading the original blog from January – August. It just wants to make me read WPF again! But I won’t because I will re-read it again once SN is out. It will be a Phil-fest of epic proportions!!

    Tracie and Janet, you guys are a scream. I mean all you ladies on this blog are awesome! I think this blog has been good for Laura. She gets to bounce ideas off of everyone.

    • Janet says:

      What? We were blogging since January? I don’t remember when I first read WPF. Now, if you quote me a few words from the book I think I can guess which chapter.
      Ann don’t go away either please. Tracie and I kept each other sane. Oh my gad, when Laura gifted us her weekly snippets I swear I would get a buzz. I think Tracie memorized her swoon scenes and my toes curled and fingers tingled when Phil told Kim off. I read that scene every single day for two weeks. Imagine my mantra. You were nothing but an easy fuck. You were nothing but an easy fuck. Then repeat.

      • Tracie says:

        I love you girls…LOL…..We’ve beem Doing the blog since April Janet….Ive enjoyed every minute of it too….Katie Phil was taking something for his self being selfish….but the week Lina is in NYC, and Phil is dealing with work, kids and the worry of his wife being out of his reach, might have him appreciating Lina a little more….Lol

        • Tracie says:

          I’m my dream scene Phil tells Lima I couldn’t go through this again….Do you think early im SN Lina tells Phil the same?

          • Janet says:

            She doesn’t need to. She can just say me too Phil. I want him to keep telling her vulnerable stuff like that.
            Insecure Phil is sexy here. He NEEDS her. If she dies he should die with her.

  153. Katie says:

    Janet, replying here so you don’t have to scroll.
    Trust me I’ve had a hard time with the length of the affair too, but this is what I’ve come up with. In the very beginning of Mr. Masters, the H sees high-end hookers as “therapy” after his wife dies. He says it’s the only time he can turn his mind off. I think that’s what the affair was to Phil. And the frequency/duration of the affair is an indication of just how lost Phil was during that time. But the second Lina re-connected with him and Katie started improving, the affair was done (still no excuse!).
    You’re like me…we are OCD. We want to know ALL of the details of the affair…and we will. But I think AWPF was more about moving forward after the affair, the love triangle, what would Lina do…not the affair itself. It wouldn’t have been as angsty if all of the details had been included.

    • Janet says:

      Yes and yes and yes to everything you said but I’m still mad at him for sleeping next to her. Omg now I am going to think Kim was Phil’s therapy! I just laughed out loud. Hey how about Jason statham as Phil? Can you handle Phil with no hair? Come to think of it I think Kevin Costner got a hair transplant because he has a lot more now when he was balding before.

      • Katie says:

        I’m putting away laundry, and I just put away my Walmart jeans. I thought of you. High waisted, slim-fit, ankle-length, cut off at ankles. They are damn cute, and no one would know they’re from WM when you also have a $1k bag. I fucking love breaking rules.

      • Katie says:

        Men who Bic can be hot (my hubby is one). But not as Phil. You’re like a mom talking about how she really wanted a girl when your boy is 18. Let it go. John Hamm is Phil.
        Yes I believe Kevin Costner had hair implants. I don’t get that.

  154. Ann says:

    Janet, you mentioned Penelope Douglas? I’ve read several of her books. The latest one I read was Birthday Girl. So good if you’re into romances where the guy is much older. this book had lots of chemistry and angst. No cheating. The main gal falls in love with her boyfriend’s Dad. It’s off the charts angsty. (is that even a word) lol

    When I was shopping today, they were playing some Christmas music with the Halloween decorations still up on the clearance wracks. I was getting in the mood and thinking about SN coming out before Christmas!!!

    • Katie says:

      I’m big into age gap romances and Birthday Girl was one of my favorites!

    • Janet says:

      I meant Penelope ward’s Jake duet. Sorry. Penelope Douglas is one of my favorites. I read birthday girl. I love angst!!

      • Tracie says:

        I have Birrhday girl on my Kindle but haven’t read it yet

        • Janet says:

          I think you will like it. She writes good alphas and I like her sense of humor. I was still reading historicals when I first read a Douglas novel. She turned me into a new adult fan after that.

    • Janet says:

      Yay Ann!!! This book will be our nourishment. I won’t need food or water until I finish the sequel. Imagine all of us losing weight during the holiday season. That’s a funny and happy thought no?
      I took my fake tree out this morning. I got a fake 3 years ago when I almost burned down my house with a dry Xmas tree. I put water in the bowl but it still caught fire. True story. I got so scared I never bought a live tree since.

      • Tracie says:

        LOL…..J-Girl I’m starting to think you have my luck sweetie….my daughter doesn’t allow anything Christmas until after Thanksgiving…she won’t even drive down the Main Street in town because they have up Christmas decorations….She doesn’t like her holidays rushed, nor does she want to think about the pilgrims and jingle bells at the same time…..Lol

  155. Katie says:

    So what’s the appeal of the infidelity themes? Redemption? I find them so hard to read.

    • Katie says:

      I ask that because I only read AWPF because it was Laura’s and she’s amazing. And the book was amazing, powerful- all the feels. But, once Phil is fully redeemed, I have to go back to my blissful no cheating, guaranteed HEA themes…cheating themes are hard on my soul.

      • Janet says:

        Katie same here about Laura’s writing. She started it. I never sought out cheating themes. I read them here and there but after reading WPF I became drawn to it. For the first time I wanted to understand a cheater and I think the ladies here share my sentiment. I actually like reading other genres like suspense thrillers but haven’t picked one up since May. Once I’m done with SN and find peace and resolution I may try again. I don’t really have the headspace for anything right now.

        • Katie says:

          Well-explained. Do you think you understand a cheater now?

          • Tracie says:

            I don’t think there can be one understanding why someone cheats..each situation has its own defining factors…

            I’m reading Mr.Masters and I’m at the part where Julian and Bree leave the bar and are in the elevator for the first time….Made me think of our bar scene. Ugh

          • Janet says:

            Haha. No!!! Help me Katie! Logically I understand. One night stands(or even several) I understand. The few months affair where the couple meet everyday are harder for me because I don’t know how you can switch your brain off like that when your body is all in and Phil chose to sleep next to the devil. When Lina said what you described is a one night stand. Phil’s responds then it turned into more. What does the more mean? I took it as Phil having a relationship with Kim and hated thinking he developed an affection for her during their fling. Tracie and Laura set me straight but I’m not a Philiever yet. I do know I will eat my words in SN and I’m more than ready for that.

      • Katie says:

        Tracie, right before their first time together at the hotel?
        Ease your mind. This is a love story!

  156. deighj says:

    J-Girl, I like Jennifer Peel and enjoy all of her books that I’ve read. My faves are the first two in the women of Merryton Place.

  157. deighj says:

    J-Girl – I read Just The Way You Are by Freethy. I enjoyed it though it slowed down a bit mid way. It’s about a young woman that fell in love with her sister’s boyfriend and got pregnant by him when both were drunk (?). He married her but was in love with the one he betrayed.
    Ann – I’ve Read all of those books except for two. A Marriage Worth Fighting For and My Biggest Mistake. A Marriage is now on my TBR list and I’m not sure I want to read Mistake. Is Mistake a duet as I didn’t find a follow up. Maybe I’m thinking of another on postpartum which is a duet.

    • Janet says:

      I got Jennifer peel last night but couldn’t find my kindle for two hours so haven’t started yet. I got so desperate I called amazon and asked if there’s such a thing as find your kindle app. Or if I ordered it over the phone with the rep, he can overnight it. This was at 11pm and my husband found it inside the linen closet.
      Anyway the biggest mistake sounds depressing. It’s another book that’s been popping up on my feed for years.

    • Ann says:

      deighj, no My Biggest Mistake is a standalone.

  158. Tracie says:

    Laura I had a nightmare last night and you are the only one that can get the monster out of my closet…Phil in SN he will always be wrenching from Kim right, he doesn’t allow her to be casual touchy with him????

    I had a dream that Kim was setting on the couch next to Phil and he was holding Liam, she put her hand on his thigh like Lina does and I jerked myself awake reaching for Kim’s hand….

    • Laura says:

      Never going to happen!

      • Tracie says:

        My husband said this morning, maybe I needed to clear my mind before I went to bed Lol….I woke him up when I jerked into a setting position to grab Kim’s hand…That thigh grabbing for me is hot and possessive….

        • Tracie says:

          Oh good…I can’t stand the thought.of her talons anywhere near him…If I had my way there would be a piece of plexiglass between them and a telephone receiver on each side….

        • Katie says:

          Omg soul sister I was just thinking Phil better have no let her touch his thigh during drives when they were having their affair. Thigh grabs, hand on back, neck caresses= very intimate.

          • Tracie says:

            Katie now that you made the storyboard I have faces and My dream was pretty vivid…but I have wondered that too, so that’s probably why I dreamed about it and J-Girl loves the word wrenching in that scene Lol….I love that Lina squeezes Phil thigh. No on Phil allowing Kim to touch his thigh in the car…My Phil would of said “Don’t touch the driver.”

          • janet says:

            Ugh well they did during the affair. But not after. We had this discussion. When Phil stayed with Kim the night before the NyC trips he took the car the airport. The devil was in the car and Tracie asked if Phil can sell it. I asked if they kissed or made out in the car and Laura said no! She couldn’t handle that either.
            So I get emails from Rachel Ashwells Shabby Chic. I was scrolling down just now and saw a blue flower print sheets. I immediately deleted the email. I’m thinking maybe I get a pink Christmas
            Tree from her store this year. I have to see it in person though

        • Janet says:

          That IS a nightmare! Hate her. Where was Lina in this dream?
          I love persimmon anything. My mother in law has trees so she brings me bags full of hard, soft, dried, and even bread for me.

          • Tracie says:

            That was my whole dream I put in the comment….I had been reading the scene Laura did for you before my surgery….That’s why my husband said I need to clear my mind before I go to bed…Lol. I have a persimmon tree in my backyard and several in the pasture…..You can also tell how cold the winter will be by how much extra hair a cow puts on or how hairy a woolie worm gets…That’s just what the old timers say down at the cafe…..I was listening to them the other day while I was eating Lol…

          • Tracie says:

            I love that our little book club is so diverse. You are talking about pink Christmas trees and I’m talking about hairy woolly worms…LOL. I can just imagine the look on your face Janet standing at our little country grocery store and Brother Johnny drives up on his big white four-wheeler with his American Flag flying behind him or Jim riding up on Jasper his mule to get a few groceries….Lol

  159. Ann says:

    Ladies, I’m off to Kohl’s and Target. Check in later today. You all have a great day. It’s beautiful here in Maryland today. Bad storms last night but beautiful today!!!

  160. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls…I think you have covered everything this morning….Lol. It is beautiful here today as well…For us that actually get cold weather, I cut into a Persimmon this morning and there was a spoon. The old timers say if there is a spoon we will be shoveling snow this winter….I hope they are right, I was hoping there wasn’t a knife inside…that would mean we were going to be cutting ice….

  161. Laura says:

    I want to stop writing and read Mr. Masters 🙁
    I won’t let myself. I have a hard time finding books I like — maybe I get lucky three times a year.
    Ann — have you read Look the Part by Jewel E. Ann? I loved it.

    • Ann says:

      Laura, I have read Look the Part, and it is awesome. I couldn’t put it down.
      Another good book is The Broken Road to Forever by Rhonda Dennis. That book made me shed a tear. That is about a couple who fell in love in high school, marry, have kids, and then later on the book picks up when they’re in their 30’s and then the drama begins between the husband and wife. Really good.

    • Tracie says:

      I’ve never read Mr. Masters…If it makes you want to stop writing SN…I know what book I need to download first..Lol

    • Katie says:

      No you have to wait.

  162. Katie says:

    Oh my goodness look at what happened while I was sleeping.
    Deighj I’m reading Unsticky and it has nothing to do with AWPF themes, but it’s turning out to be a sweet read. I plan to reread one of my favorites, Mr. Masters by TL Swan, as my next, because I know it won’t disappoint me. It’s about an Alpha widowed Judge who hires an Australian au pair. It’s hilarious and dirty (and a little heart-wrenching at times) in all the right ways. Highly recommend.

    Oh and Deighj, I would say I’m sorry that your daughter is messy, but she’s probably just really creative. My husband has given up. Our dining room table has had one of my projects on it for about 5 consecutive years now.

    • Ann says:

      I read Mr. Masters and it’s really good. I read another of TLSwann’s books that didn’t thrill me, but this is good.

    • Janet says:

      I have the Stanton series by TL Swan in my kindle. Is it any good? Never read this author but fot the series last year I think.

      • Katie says:

        I haven’t liked anything else by her.

      • Ann says:

        Janet, I’ve only read by T.L. Swann: Play Along (really good) and Find Me Alastar (good but not great). I think Find Me Alastar may have a sequel which I did not read. Story is good, has a little mystical theme to it. Mr. Masters was really good.

        I read so much that sometimes after I come off a book hangover, I should just wait before i dive into another book. I’m wierd like that.

        Do you have any other books that are close to WPF? If so, please share.

        • Janet says:

          Like WPF no but some cheating yes. How about
          the Mill House by Susan Lewis
          The Adultery Club- Tess Stimson.
          I recently read Colleen Hoover’s All your Perfects and it was a fast read.
          Admissions of Guilt Roxanne winkler
          A Price Worth Paying Kathryn shay(the wife cheats once)

  163. Janet says:

    Oh good. I hope mine do too. They sure are long. I won’t see them till after 7pm. 2 days at UCLA which is about a mile and a half away. Annnd
    There I go thinking about Kim first thing in the morning.

  164. deighj says:

    Yo Katie girl what book are you reading? I especially want to know since it reminds you of WPF.

    • Janet says:

      Hey guys! So happy to find most of you are up already. The kids have model UN for the first time today so I woke up earlier than usual. I can’t believe the birthday scene was at 80
      Percent. Powerful is an understatement since I’m still reading/thinking about it.
      Deighj, Katie is reading Unsticky but Sara Manning. She was saying It was unrelated to WPF theme.

  165. deighj says:

    I love reading everyone’s thoughts on books you’ve read. I look those books up to refresh my memory and put them on stand by to read or skim again. When I go to Amazon I’m a kid in a candy store, spending hours on there.

    • Ann says:

      Me too! Like I said my kindle is stuck to my ass, so it goes everywhere I go. I just recently read Across the Oceans by Susan Wiggs, which was good. The husband is a naval officer who is married with a couple of kids. Wife and him go through some big struggles. It was better than expected. I actually borrowed this book from the public library via my kindle.

  166. Ann says:

    Hi Deighj. I don’t mean to answer for Laura but that book is called Life Without You by S P West. The husband is a huge jerk in the first half.

  167. deighj says:

    Laura, what is the book by SP West that you didn’t like because of the way the husband talked about his mistress to his wife. He must have been really angry with his wife or just a scum bag.

  168. Ann says:

    Laura/Ladies good morning. At least I’m not the only one up!

    I’m sitting here sipping my coffee and reading through the blog from Summer. I didn’t realize how many scenes were cut out from original WPF! Laura, please smack your editor for me. Lol. These cut out scenes would have added so much. Please don’t leave anything out of this
    sequel. I don’t care how long SN is going to be, it will be awesome!

    • Laura says:

      Good morning! Just returned from the dog park — what a beautiful fall day here in the mid Atlantic.

      In the original WPF the birthday card scene happened at 80 percent. The editor wanted it at 50 percent — she said it was the most powerful scene.

  169. deighj says:

    OMG!!! You never fail me Sugar pie. Usually I just chuckle at your antics, this time I busted. That was completely unexpected. My daughter is an expert at making Whop-Em-Biscuits. Have you ever tried them with a burnt and scraped bottom? I really don’t care for those though I do try since I don’t want to hurt her feelings.

  170. Janet says:

    I think I said this book a lot and it’s a harlequin but I love this author for her angst. Michelle Reid. I really liked ultimate betrayal. And sherry Thomas, not quite a husband is really angsty too but it’s a historical. Oh Laura liked this. Liberating Lacey by Anne Calhoun. She’s older than the hero. Really good.

    Just the way you are by Barbara F is good? I’m asking. Keep reading this on my feed but doesn’t grab me. Read most of Shiloh walker. Angsty.

    • Tracie says:

      Thanks J-Girl..I’ll give them a look see….Until I read SN I don’t think I’ll get pulled in to another book…Then I’ll be waiting on my other Prossi man to look forward too…I bet that’s going to be hot too….

      • janet says:

        Nobody can concentrate till SN is out. I think I’ve been reading a same book for a week. I’m going to dump it and start a new one Ann recommended. I have a question Laura. In the new Lucas book, is there a Kim? I know you have anxiety writing these scenes but you make Evil so good. I don’t mean does Lucas cheat but does he have an ex gf that causes trouble?

  171. Janet says:

    I’m back! Laura’s post to Deighj is beautiful. You stay strong girlfriend! Yes on Linda kage. It’s Masons POV and it’ll be released in nov 30 I believe.

    Omg my dad is a gorilla! I have so many stories but I won’t bore you with them. I’m just relieved age has mellowed him out a bit.

    Ann, thanks so much for the recommendations. I’ll check them all out tonight. I’ve has shay savage on my kindle for the last 2 yrs. I forgot all about her…

    • Tracie says:

      J-Girl you know I have to have reconciliations with a bit of groveling so recommend a few for me since you have read them please….

      • Janet says:

        You like groveling? Lol. That’s not your Phil. I don’t know many of the books Anne listed. I remember reading an old harlequin presents by Lilian cheatham. I loved it because it’s so politically incorrect. The hero treats the heroine like trash and he makes her cook and clean for months. Then later he loses so much weight from missing her and grovels to take him back. If I read good grovel I’ll tell you.

  172. Tracie says:

    Girls I’m so excited…my granddaughter’s college has live stream and I just finished her 2nd home ballgame and she sunk 4 3’s…..She rocked last night too….We start wrestling season in a few weeks my grandson is so pumped…He is the same age as Logan in the book 15 going to be 16 in a few months, he’s so handsome…..

    • Laura says:

      That’s so exciting Tracie! I love being around teenagers and young people

      • Tracie says:

        Thank you Laura…I loved getting to watch her….Last night she didn’t know I saw the game…when she played HS ball, after each game she had a text on her phone from me after the coach released them…Even though I was in the stands that was our thing…Last night I fired one off and soon as the game was over and she sent me the most beautiful text back..Those are the moments we live for…..

    • Ann says:

      Aww that’s great tracie!

      • Tracie says:

        Thanks Ann…she’s an angel…

        • Tracie says:

          J-Girl I was thinking about that little snippet of Katie and Phil…I bet it’s when Lina is in NYC…That’s why he’s telling Katie to set the table instead of Lina…also he seems a little cranky, he’s missing his woman….Depending on what day of the week, he could also have Liam….Swoon….My Phil needs to be steamed…I’m probably wrong but it’s fun to imagine him having one of those desperate need moments for Lina, like you like….

          • Janet says:

            Didn’t Katie set the table before? But maybe he’s a bit cranky. He’s a super alpha for sure and I love it when he’s roaring at Kim. As long as he is gentle with Lina I don’t care.

          • Tracie says:

            I can’t wait to hear there sweet conversation on Thursday night of her trip…I’m like you I love him being all sweet and steamy with Lina…

  173. deighj says:

    J-Girl, which book by Linda Kage? Is it Price of a Kiss? Found one on Amazon that I read several years ago that will make you want to junk punch the MMC through out most of the book. No Longer Mine by Shiloh Walker.
    Just The Way You Are by Barbara Freethy
    A Perfect Marriage by Laurey Bright – Harlequin
    I’m outta juice, gonna say goodnight.

  174. Ann says:

    Janet, here is a list of some family/marriage drama books that I’ve read:

    The Girl in Seat 24B by Jennifer Peel

    Locked In by Anna Chastain

    Life without you by S.P. West – the husband is a huge asshole

    A Marriage worth fighting for by Lilian Darcy

    My Biggest Mistake by Ledy Harper

    Allegiance by Mary Flinn

    Saving Grace

    I have tons more but these are pretty good. Of course nothing compares to Laura’s books!!

    No one writes an alpha male like Laura. Shay Savage can write a good male as in Surviving Raine. Great book.

    I started going back through the blog and I am just so pumped up about SN. Can’t wait.

  175. deighj says:

    What book are you reading Katie?

  176. deighj says:

    Katie I don’t think think Kim would bring that up. She had an agenda and was biding her time. Phil’s mind was only on the physical aspect of the affair. I don’t see him as ever discussing his wife or family with Kim. I can see him warning Kim it was physical only, but I think he saw Kim as already knowing that.

  177. Katie says:

    You know in the one scene that Laura shared recently about Kim moving closer to Phil how he says, “I’m doing the best I can.” Doesn’t that seem kind of submissive toward her? I don’t like that he gives her any power.

    I’m reading a new book and all it’s doing is making me think about AWPF.

    • Tracie says:

      She did sound slightly dominate, but she was baiting him….Phil can’t tell her where to live,Kim loves that she can exercise some control over Phil with that Knowledge. Knowing it is going to hurt Lina, gives the witch a rush! Hate her .

    • Laura says:

      I agree Katie. Not sure if the wording of that conversation will make the cut. I thought she’d be a little different than that but she appears to have a life of her own.

  178. deighj says:

    Laura, will your father require home health care? I’ve seen the health of
    so many elderly people’s health worsen after broken bones.

  179. Katie says:

    Did you girls ever talk about this- had Phil talked to Kim during their affair that he had no interest and in her beyond a physical affair? That he wouldn’t leave his wife…

  180. deighj says:

    Laura thank you for helping me see another facet of naivety. This last one really hurt. I loved that boy. He reminded me that I have a son who is a successful man and my pride and joy. Some people just like the vagabond life I guess.

  181. deighj says:

    OK J-Girl, from now on I’ll scroll down to reply.

  182. deighj says:

    Ladies, Laura’s correct that I replyed under your original posts. I realize this makes it difficult to keep up with any replies. It’s just that as I scroll down to answer I get sidetracked reading the following posts and I end up forgetting what post I’m replying to. Which is best, under the original or shutting my eyes and scrolling until I can’t scroll any more. Duh, and yeah color me stupid.

  183. Laura says:

    Deighj — I have a theory as to why some people are considered naive — it’s because they are so kind they can’t conceive or see that what other people are capable of — if you don’t have it in you, how would you recognize it in someone else? That’s why good people can be so hurt — they trust. The karma is that the ‘hurter’ has to live with themselves forever. I would hate to be someone who didn’t care about the feeling of others. You’re special and I hope you don’t let him take anything from you. I’m sure he had a kindness to him that pulled you in (no one is black and white)– I’m sorry you were hurt.

    Janet — lol I think you were blessed with a very gentle father. Nice for you. And don’t worry Phil will be stood up to in Swimming Naked.

  184. Janet says:

    I’m posting down here. I miss too much scrolling back and forth.

    Something always happens when I go away for a bit. Deighj my heart, someone hurt you? That makes me so mad!! I want to send Tracie and Katie down there to beat the person up while I ply you with food. Argggghhh.

    Katie, that comment was right up your ally. I laughed so hard. I still love Nick so much and the blondie on the board is so much hotter than jon to me. I just can’t understand any of you.

    This makes me question Phil’s ancestors. Were they Vikings?! Set the table. Now! Omg and Tracie growled. Laura how come nobody gets to argue with Phil? Will nick use his 5th degree belt in SN?

    • Tracie says:

      Phil would kick his ass…get Nick on the ground where he can’t use his feet and Phil’s got him Lol…Lina argues with Phil..I never argued with my dad…he use to say I tell you to jump, don’t ask me how high, jump and ask if that’s high enough…Lol

  185. Ann says:

    Omg, my brain is fried reading all this! I can’t keep up. I’m going to make a concerted effort to go back and read this blog over the last 1500 comments over this past Summer.

    I’m looking for something new to read. Since WPF I’ve been into family drama with married couples struggling and big redemption. So if you have any suggestions let me know. I read about 4 books per week. My kindle is glued to my ass!!

    Also, my image of Phil is nothing like Dennis Quaid but more like John Hamm but with a super body. Haha

    • Laura says:

      Yep, that’s Phil. He’s perfect!

      • Ann says:

        Laura, how many pages is SN going to be? Just estimate!

        • Laura says:

          If I had to guess I would say approximately the length of WPF which is 385 but it could be longer — definitely not shorter.

        • Janet says:

          Ann me too about family drama and couple struggling. You know of any good ones like Laura’s? I recommended a few to Deighj last week I think but she has read them all. I think Laura said she liked SP west.

          • Laura says:

            Did I say I liked SP West? Ugh I really really hated the Hero in her book — she’s a good writer because she made me feel but the things he said to his wife about his mistress — awful

  186. Katie says:

    I bet Nick talks too much during sex. Had they had sex, I could see Lina saying, “I didn’t say Rumi, I said DO ME.”

  187. Tracie says:

    In that scene J-Girl do you think Lina already knows what Kim has done, whether it’s moving or not? Phil says she not getting away with this…she has pushed me to far…Lina says Phil talk to me….Lina also asked Phil at the first of the scene what he doing….

    • Janet says:

      Yes I believe she already knows. Almost got a vibe she’s resigned to it but Phil didn’t see it coming.

      Katie, the social call reveal was maybe in the second blog. Phil was fuming and came to Kim’s house yelling. I thought for some reason it was in the winter. Again I’m all over the place.

      • Tracie says:

        It was in the winter, it was the day after Liam’s BD, so it had to be Christmas Eve, since his BD is the 23rd.

      • Tracie says:

        I can see Lina doing that Janet…This is my life now, just another day in the neighborhood….Phil couldn’t stand Lina thinking that though…He wants her protected and happy….

        • Katie says:

          Oh, fuck Kim.

          • Tracie says:

            I love you Katie…that was damn funny….Did you girls know that the word Fuck is actually and acronym..For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge….I believe ir was in the old Jack the Ripper days that when a prostitute was arrested the charge was For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and instead of writing it out they just used the acronym…..

          • Katie says:

            That’s good to know about the acronym. Really everything sounds better with the F word attached.

        • Janet says:

          Lord I’m even more confused but that’s even better. Everything will be a surprise. Do you guys think Phil can stay one step ahead of Kim? I actually don’t think that’s possible because who can think like this woman?

  188. Janet says:

    I’m trying to piece your previews together Laura. Remember the reveal where Phil visits Kim’s house and he meets her sister? We can’t forget Phil’s words, “ this isn’t a social call.” Sooo goood. Does this scene come right after Phil finds out Kim moved a mile from him? I thought it was Liam related but not sure. Driving me nutty trying to figure out the scenes where Phil verbally attacks Kim.

    • Tracie says:

      Janet I’m wondering if that is where he comes home from work and is throwing on the shorts and ripping his shirt like a sexy furious hunk of love meat….

      • Janet says:

        Lol. He is that.
        Oh I see where you are coming from. I just keep seeing the social call comment as being in the front of the book and popping buttons scene more in the middle.
        I’m so confused.

        • Tracie says:

          Phil and Lina get back together in April…In Chapter 47 he pulls Lina into his side in the cool April evening….when they are leaving the restaurant..Phil tells Kim about him and Lina getting back together…so I figure it might be warm enough for shorts when Kim moves…

          • Katie says:

            Woah what was the social call reveal???!!!

          • Tracie says:

            Laura showed us a short snippet of Phil meeting Kim’s sister in one of the blogs …Phil is so pissed, the sister is scared and she says you must be Phil and he says this is not a social call…

        • Laura says:

          the button-popping scene is before the social call scene

    • Laura says:

      Janet — save yourself the frustration. Things have moved all over the place

  189. Janet says:

    Oh no Laura. Pass out from being weak? Hope he is released today. Also I could have sworn you were a workaholic Virgo. Glad you set me straight

    How are you feeling Deighj?

    Tracie, the biggest Phil defender of the universe, are you working today?

    Hey Ann! I remember the blonde in parent trap. You mean the version where Dennis Quaid plays the dad right? I can see her as Kim too but after our Katie made that board, all I see is the girl in the white dress.

    Katie, did you add that pasta picture? Lol. Perfect

    • Katie says:

      No, I haven’t changed anything… Sometimes pictures disappear and reappear, I have noticed.

      Whoever Kim is, she has resting bitch face.

      • janet says:

        Bahaha. So true. Such a schemer. Ok so remember last night we chatted briefly about gigolos? Couple years back Linda Kage wrote one centered around a male prostitute in his 20s through the heroines POV. I just read that she wrote the same story through the guy’s POV this time. Check it out if you all don’t have anything to read.

    • Ann says:

      Hi Janet! Yep that version. I thought of her because she was so bitchy and mean!!

    • Laura says:

      The pictures move around. It’s kind of cool.

      • Katie says:

        I hope they still stay mostly consistent with the chain of events…
        That chick from Parent Trap works too. Same look. High maintenance, bitchy, sex appeal.

        • Tracie says:

          The chick from Parent Trap was the first one I picked for Kim. I think Janet and I discussed on the first or second blog…Lol. I only work four days a week (10 hour days). I’m off on Fridays and still on half days for one more week…I have been working on my husband though, he put the baby (2.5 years) on his damn Quarter Horse and was leading him around the pasture, then down through the creek…The horse jumped the water and my little angel boy fell off….he landed in the mud, didn’t hurt him at all praise be…..He said Mimi, no be mad at my Papa, it not hurt me, I’m a cowboy…….

          • Janet says:

            Omgg Tracie. 40 acres and quarter horse and the creek and cattle guard. Who are you? I really need to see this live. Now I feel the need to read a Diana Palmer book. You and your husband sound just like the characters in her novel. Lol. So relieved your grandson is ok. My daughter rides too(only once a week) and when she fell and didnt move for a second my heart stopped.

          • Laura says:

            I love the sound of where you live Tracie. I so prefer open space…

          • Tracie says:

            You would love it…We have mountains you could hike and walking trails..my husband keeps the perimeter of the land mowed for me so I can walk it…I usually walk three to four miles per day (before the hip)…I miss it…I hope your knee gets better so you can get back to walking or running..

  190. Ann says:

    Just curious, but who would be your pick to play evil Kim. In my mind I picture the girl who played the future stepmother in the 97 version of Parent Trip. She was such a bitch.

    If you guys already hashed this out please excuse me!

  191. Katie says:

    Hi Ann! Hi girls!
    I’m currently getting my hooves pedicured.
    So sorry about your dad, Laura.
    Yes, Ann, we’d love to hear your POV. And it’ll keep us (me) from embarrassing ourselves on the regular.
    I don’t think Phil has ever felt pain like that night he broke his hand. Knowing he fucked up and Lina could have her emotional, physical and lifestyle needs met by Nick. He came off as spoiled, but I think just heartbroken. I hope he learns to channel his feelings better in SN.

  192. Tracie says:

    Sorry I was posting while you posted Lol…So sorry about you dad babe…

  193. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls, Laura where are we going today???? Have you had lunch? If not it’s time…..Lol. Squeeze for Chandler….

    Hi Ann…I remember you and know me and the girls would love to hear your ideas and suggestions too…..My Phil is complicated, his ego was so hurt in that scene and his heart was broken not only by Lina, but his own actions as well…..Hang with him babe you won’t be disappointed…

    Carrie how are you doing sweetie?

    Deighj hoping you are feeling better honey….

    Morning J-Girl and Katie….

    • Ann says:

      Hi Tracie. I know you’re Team Phil too but he frustrates me. I have faith in Laura that he will be redeemed in SN.

      I think I love Phil because he’s so damn cocky. Plus he’s so hot too.

  194. Laura says:

    Good morning girls!
    My father finally came home from rehab (Tuesday) only to pass out (yesterday). I spent half the night in the ER — he can’t catch a break. Luckily, he’s okay and will be back home today.
    Janet — loved your story. I could just picture the whole scene! I’m not sure if I have a type A personality — I can be very focused though — and I was very focused on my daughter. You’re right I feels things very deeply and I’m sensitive — I’m not really into astrology but I’m a Cancer and it fits.

    Tracie — before you ask — I’m back in New York with Lina and Adele — polishing up the scene

  195. Ann says:

    Hi Laura,
    You Ladies rock!!!! I love reading all of your thoughts, suggestions, etc. I read this blog a couple of times a week but I’ve only commented twice back in May before this group took on a life of its own. Keep in coming, I love it!

    Anyway, Laura I love your work. I’ve read WPF 3 times since January and just re-read When I Saw You, and A Sense of Belonging. I am a retired, and I read all the time. No other books compare to yours. That’s why I read your books over again. lol

    WPF is special for me because I live in Maryland just north of Annapolis and I am so familiar with all your scenes. My daughter lived in Federal Hill for a few years and I could just picture Nick and Lena at the restaurants, etc.

    One more thing I want to add about Phil and Lena. I love Phil but I swear I just want to slap that man. Especially the scene where Phil just broke his hand and gets out of the shower while Lena is asking him about his injury. He then says something to her like, you told me to leave so stop acting like my wife and then says get the f– out! I mean come on Phil, you apparently didn’t act like Lena’s husband for the 5 months you were with evil Kim. But, that’s Phil.

    I hope SN gets here in December!! I just can’t wait. I just can’t get enough of these characters.

    Take care Ladies, you all make my day!!

    • Laura says:

      Hi Ann!

      Thanks for your words! My best friend lives in Annapolis — so I’m there often. Up until about a week ago my niece lived in Federal Hill — I think she finally got tired of always looking for a place to park lol.

      I’ve lived in Washington, DC and Maryland most of my life so it’s easy to write what you know. My daughter went to McDonogh (the high school Katie attends). I’ve lived in the Ellicott City area (where the Hunters live) for the past twenty years. It’s fun to imagine them here.

      And yes, Phil acted like a spoiled little boy that day. He couldn’t see past his own pain.

      Don’t stay a stranger. It’s fun to hear everyone’s thoughts!

      • Ann says:

        Hi Laura. I knew the Hunters lived in Howard County but didn’t realize it was Ellicott City. I love that area.

        My husband retired from JHU-APL and I was picturing some of those surrounding neighborhoods. Ellicott City is better.

    • deighj says:

      Ann, I’m so glad you joined us. We have a lot of fun on here and you’re gonna add to it. We’re in the home stretch on SN so we’re just sharing bits of our everyday lives, books we’ve read…just life in general. I’d love to know more about you, the area you and Laura live in, any books you’ve enjoyed reading. I know you’ll enjoy this site as much as we all do. The gals on here have come to mean so much to me, they enliven my life.

  196. Katie says:

    I just read through everything from today…
    Tracie- I have a serious thing for farmhouses. When I come visit, I’ll help you can and bake sweets.
    Janet- Yes I’m from OC, now in SD. Your gardener story is great. They get you on the flat rate, affordable maintenance and then pull stuff like that on big projects. Boooo.
    I wouldn’t characterize myself as hot. A little sassy maybe. I’m dirty blonde and look like a petite, thicker LeeLee Sobieski- big green eyes, high cheekbones, strong bone structure, long nose…very European. And I was blessed with olive skin thanks to some Greek in there.

    Our in-person meeting might be awkward at first but alcohol fixes everything. And we could always play the “who looks like a character from Laura’s books” in the bar. I’m sure Janet would make us laugh with that game.

    • Tracie says:

      I’ll take you up on that Katie…I tried making homemade angel biscuits for him one time and ended up with Angel cookies and a burned hand….I had them on a cooling rack and was pissed because they were so flat. I said what went wrong???? He walked up behind me and put his arms around my waist, he was laughing and that made me madder…he said well doll, I’m no baker, but the thickness of them tells me you rolled you dough to thin….he ended up putting butter and jelly on top of them…Lol

      • janet says:

        what are angel biscuits. Which reminds me have you ever tried the Carbon’s Golden Malted pancake and waffle mix? I forgot to bring it up when we were discussing Lina’s breakfast orders. Order from amazon and make it for husband. He will thank me. lol

        • Tracie says:

          Supposedly they are a simple biscuit made from scratch….I don’t know why they call them angel biscuits…but it was a lie J-Girl there was nothing simple about it….

          • deighj says:

            You are too funny for description Sugar! I can see you making those biscuits. Have you ever made buttermilk biscuits? I too use to do biscuits from scratch until I found Bisquick. I love to cook, bake, collect and trade recipes. But my hunter’s stew with buttermilk biscuits are the easiest and most requested. Found a cake recipe with mayonnaise I want to try.

          • Tracie says:

            My ego took a hit after the supposed easy angel biscuits and the only biscuits since then have been the famous Whop-Em-Biscuits…Whop the tube on the counter and pull the 10 count of Pillsbury’s out. They never fail me Deighj….

    • janet says:

      I find Leelee gorgeous and very chic. She came one year for career day with her brother to the kids school and I was taken with both of them. She looks better now then when she was in her 20s. You must be lovely!

      Whats the deal with farmhouses? Like homes in vermont? Tracie, you live in a farmhouse? I think you are in a mansion with electric gates and golf carts.

      • Katie says:

        Well thanks J. ?
        Legit, old farmhouses (not trendy, modern versions) are just so charming to me. Chippy paint, blemished hardwoods, old barn/industrial lighting, eclectic/handmade decor, furniture, improvements, etc. etc. They scream home and family to me. And all of the imperfections are acceptable where they wouldn’t be anywhere else. Because it’s a farm, where people work hard, do things themselves, and enjoy the simple things in life.
        Ok that sounded weird.

        • Tracie says:

          The bathroom in this house Katie use to be the kitchen…It originally only had three rooms, but the original owners added a new living room and small kitchen in the 1950’s….we have gutted it and redid the plumbing and electric…I’m keeping the integrity of the farmhouse style as we put it back together….

        • janet says:

          Lord!! I get it but omg shudder. You want chippy paint, go buy something at shabby chic or watch Chip and Joanna. You wake up happy at 5am don’t you? Still love you but no thank you.

          • Katie says:

            Lol! Our house is the exact opposite of what I described. The dog put some scratches into our hardwood and that’s the closest I’ll probably ever get to my dream farmhouse.

      • Tracie says:

        I live in a ranch style home on 40 acres….My yard is fenced and I do have an electronic gate across my driveway by the road. The rest of the property is fenced with barbed wire and we have a cattle guard and pipe entryway on the corner that leads into the pasture…On the far end of our property is the original farmhouse that was on the land and I wanted it preserved….so we are redoing it…..

  197. Tracie says:

    I laughed so hard…I totally agree with the online and information….This is the first public forum I’ve ever been on…I don’t have FB and burn everything in our fire pit that has an address…etc. I don’t order anything that doesn’t have a secure website and use PayPal when offered…Your husband is a smart man…

    Now Rudy…your damn name is not on the mortgage..plant some effing grass…Don’t ever give in J-Girl….that’s where he got you…I hope you did lay into him and he would of got 5K out of me, after he ate shit and howled at the moon….I’m just saying..

    • janet says:

      Tracie, just read your post about ripping out the floors. Your husband’s response was classic. Too too funny. if we all lived close we would definitely have a book club and get drunk on cheap wine and wine coolers. I wonder if we would all get along face to face. I think so.

      I think Rudy conned me but he sent me an itemized invoice of what everything was for . But spider fertilizer shouldn’t cost $300. He said, “you treat us like gold. I never raise your price but I have to pay my guys.” How can I fire him after that? I guess i just water everyday so nothing dies on me.

      • Tracie says:

        You are a sweetie….Just water babe and if another tree dies blog me, I’ll hook up a trailer, grab a chainsaw and rent a stump grinder for 50 bucks and head your way…I can buy a good size crepe for 100 dollars…we’ll drink cheap wine and I’ll plant you a tree! While I plant, Rudy can fan you with a palm leaf, the whole time you can remind him “you made me do this Rudy! “. I do believe we would get a long fine….Lol…Laura could write a whole series if this group lived close together….

        • Janet says:

          Omg whattt?! He charged me 600 long time ago and this year $700! But I asked a couple of neighbors and they were charged 800-900 so I thought it was okay. Omg. He totally conned me.

          Laura would starve herself if we lived near her. She could never stop writing. But I thought of a subject for her next book. How about a male porn star gone good after meeting a nun and both turn away from their “calling.”
          Or a young male escort with an older woman? What do you guys think?

          • Tracie says:

            I just busted…J-Girl did you put a straw in the box wine..LOL….A porn star….I would like to hear about Laura’s research on that character…Lol…You crack me up…

          • Katie says:

            Not sure about the gigalo and the nun storyline.

          • janet says:

            ok never mind the nun. That’s more my fantasy thing. I tend to romanticize them. The porn star and male escort I’ve read a couple good ones but I can’t remember the title or the author. I remembered because I recommended Stinger to Deighj and the MC was a porn star when he meets the heroine. It was good.

  198. Janet says:

    Oh when I’m home, I live in sweats or moo moos. My style icon is Mrs Roper from the show Three’s Company. Remember that? I’m wondering what I said that Katie can see me gardening. If she only knew the sun is my mortal enemy. Lol.

    My husband is very guarded(more like suffers from paranoia IMO)and won’t let me talk much about myself on public forums but I want to share this. Over the summer I had a fight with my gardener. I tried to save $ and conserve water so I only watered my lawn 3x a week. Well I killed a 10 yr old white birch tree. My gardener owns his business so he has a team or mowers working for him so he didn’t know I killed it till one of the mowers told him. He said, “My God my God how did you let this happen?
    Me- Rudy, it’s not dead. How can a 10 yr old tree die that fast? I just can’t water for 3 hours(I have a 10 zone sprinkler system that goes off 2x a day)we need to save water.
    Gardener-you killed a birch tree. How can you let this happen. It’s completely dead.
    Me- ok just dig it up and let’s leave it as is and put a patch of grass. I don’t want to waste $
    Gardener- no! We need to plant a tree. It ruins the design(there’s no such thing!). I have a reputation to keep(huh?).
    Me- are you kidding me right now? It’s like 2×2. What design? Just put grass.
    Gardener-we need a tree here!
    Me- fine Rudy. Just get me another pink crepe myrtle. Don’t want anymore birch. And don’t charge me for dig out.
    You know what he did? He charged me a lump sum of 5k saying it’s for everything. I freaked out on him.

  199. janet says:

    Holy Moly. You guys blew up the blog without me. Now I know what Laura sees when she opens her inbox with our scenarios. hahaha.

    I love all the descriptions here! I see Laura in a white house though and organized. I got this from how she raised her Ivy League daughter. Very much type A and an observer because I think most writers have to be. Weirdly enough I see Laura in our Lina with some traits of Casey mixed in- who feels things very deeply. Let’s say a Virgo with soul. Do you wear tank tops with jean shorts too Laura? LOL. I am in awe of your brain and find you fascinating.

    Katie- You are a rockstar in Stella and Walmart jeans(WTH, I need to check their jeans out. Thanks for this secret). I think as lover of romance novels you have depth a lot of people in their 30s don’t possess. I think having an older hottie husband doesn’t hurt either. I see you as a CA sassy hot blonde and the best mom for your baby.

    Tracie and Deighj are one big giant heart. I just see a heart when I imagine you two. And because of the life experiences you’ve had you both are compassionate and wise. I can hear your stories all freaking day ladies! Physically Tracie is a Raquel Welch and Deigjh is a model with brown hair.

    I’m short at 5’3 1/2″ and size 2 or 4 depending on the designer. I’m also a stereotypical Asian in that I love high end designers. For me, beautiful clothes and bags are like art. They just make me genuinely happy. So yeah, usually I am dressed in Chanel but my favorite place in the world has always been the public library.

    • Tracie says:

      You are the same size as my daughter J-Girl…and she loves her designers too…You’re a cutie and your heart is big too or you wouldn’t do all you do….I dress up when I have too (like work) or something social, but when I’m home you’ll find me in jeans and T-Shirts….I’m usually working outside anyway and depending on the weather I’m in rubber Muck boots or sneakers….I throw on flip flops for quick trips in and out of the house……

    • Katie says:

      I love all of this. Don’t go budget on jackets, bags, shoes, sheets, or toilet paper.

    • deighj says:

      J-Girl, I did do some modeling while in school. I’m 5’9” but more reddish than brown hair. I had a serious illness several years ago and can’t seem to gain all my weight back so much too thin now.

      Wise, not so much. I don’t know that I have a big heart. I just can’t bear knowing any one is in pain or doing without. What I do know is that I’m naive. I have been burned badly in the past, most recently a few months ago. That last one will last awhile. My husband always told me I was naive which I disputed. That’s how he was able to do those send ups of me.

      • Tracie says:

        Oh Deighj thinking of someone hurting or taking advantage of you, spins me up….Sweetie you have such a big heart and anyone that would burn you, needs my foot up their ass and isn’t any better than gum on the bottom of your shoe…..All you girls to me are beautiful. smart and special in your own way……I can imagine you getting your runway on pretty girl…

  200. Laura says:

    I’m laughing. I’ve never shot a gun. My ring size is a 4 so I’m not physically strong but I try to stay fit — at least I was before I fell on my patella. Yes, my hair is as Katie describes it. I think writers have to listen more than talk or they wouldn’t have anything to write about. I am generally curious about people I come in contact with — I like to know everyone’s story. I’m not shy but I don’t like parties where I don’t know anyone. I do speak up when I want to or feel I need to. I hate drama unless it’s in a novel. I do like nice things. I tend to be messy too but the room I write in has to be neat. I hate cleaning so I have a cleaning lady.
    And like the rest of you I hate formula romance. I write what I’d like to read.

    • Katie says:

      Oh god no! You don’t shoot! Tracie shoots!!

      • janet says:

        Tracie shoots and her sons hunt! And she used to ride a motorcycle. Her husband got her a golf cart to ride around her property after she crashed her bike.

        • Tracie says:

          I do shoot but not good….Typical me right handed and left eye dominate…..not my thing….I do have a little garter derringer that is my favorite when my husband wants to shoot…He always tells me that my little gun is only going to make someone mad…I tell him while they’re getting mad, I’m getting gone….He just shakes his head, he’s an expert shot and loves to shoot…so I go when he asks…

  201. deighj says:

    Rainy and cold on Halloween are my kids favorite memories of the day. We used to joke about raincoats being part of their costumes. I of course drove them house to house. I didn’t mind at all.

    • Tracie says:

      It rained on us all the time too…I remember one Halloween, my brother said I’ll race you to the door, we jumped out of the car and my brother took off and then just disappeared..I went up to the door and got my candy wondered back down the drive-way and my daddy and mama were fishing my brother out of a concrete drainage ditch that ran down the street under the driveways….to say the least I won….LOL

  202. deighj says:

    Hey Sugar, just read your post. I know Laura’s going to ensure the Hunters are going to be one bigger happy family. But aren’t we having fun imagining how she’s going to do that?
    My thoughts on Phil/Logan/Liam is that Phil is going to really work on his relationship with Logan, getting closer than in the past. Once Logan is confident of his father’s love and respect for who he is, he will gradually open up to acceptance and finally love for Liam.

  203. Tracie says:

    You girls make me smile and laugh so much….I’m at work in comfy clothes (no choice), turned from my desk toward my computer screens. I always have you girls minimized on Screen 1 (never two), the only radio I have is a two-way and the whir sound of the laser printer at my secretary’s desk….The ONLY thing that lives around me is my husband. He does raise a big veggie garden though and usually gives most of it away because I don’t have the time or know how to can. This year I did can pickled beets because I love them and what an ordeal. My hands and nails were stained purple for about a week. His mom and grandma always raised gardens and cooked big meals with some kind of sweet after the meal. Bless his heart, with me he gets a glass of milk and Oreo’s… Also, I’m all about the sooner the steamy the better LOL…As far as neighbors…I’d love to have every single one of you near by…I can see us driving house to house in our custom golf carts hauling dogs and kids with boxes of Cabby Savvy, living the good life….

    Katie the farmhouse we are redoing is the original one on our property. We lived in the house while we built the one we live in now. The farmhouse is only 2 bedroom,1 bath and was to small for our family, but I wanted to make sure it didn’t deteriorate, so I tore out some sheet rock and a few other things.. My husband thought I was quiet far to long and came up to the house looking for me, he stood in the doorway with his mouth open and said…Babe how can you tear up in one day, more than a construction crew can put back together in a solid month???? I smiled and said it’s a talent, don’t be Jeally…green doesn’t look good on you…thus the renovations began…he didn’t have much of choice…LOL

  204. Laura says:

    Now tell me what I’m like.

    • Katie says:

      Laura- the cool kid on the playground, magnetic, quiet, sometimes, but not introverted, peace-keeper, not into BS or drama, sophisticated (you know your fashion, cars, food, liquor). I also imagine you having wild, curly hair that you mess with when you’re writing. Tall and thin, but athletic.

      I’m equal parts religion and liberation. Equal parts healthy eating and ice cream. I’m Stella McCartney blazer with a fallabella bag AND Walmart jeans (They were cute and fit well!). I cuss too much but I can turn on the lady in negotiations and to give a decent pitch. A snapshot of my life at this moment is no indication of my resume, and I’m happy about that. Except our house, which is nice by most standards, but always messy- because I’m a creative tornado and lazy (and have a preschooler and puppy). I prefer DIY, and that has nothing to do with money. People seem to laugh around me a lot, but I don’t think it’s because I’m funny- people just can’t believe the shit that comes out my mouth. But, overall, I think I’m a good person, and I mean well.

      • Tracie says:

        When I’m at work, I have to do my posts in spurts and by the time mine post you girls are three to four up on me with new subjects…..Just read your descriptions and I love them……Katie I agree with you on Laura’s description…add that she has a smile that would light up the Ravens Field..she is a loving and supportive mother, sister, daughter and friend.

      • Tracie says:

        Katie I know without a doubt you are a good person…and cute as a bug….I cuss to much too and the shit that comes out of my mouth tends to even shock me….so rock on sister….

        • Katie says:

          Thank you.
          I’m little. Size 6 feet. Wear kids’ gloves. Does that fit?
          I see you as being effortlessly beautiful, strong (physically and in standing up for justice), hilarious, and maybe slightly inappropriate at times. I bet you can shoot too.

          • Tracie says:

            Yes,it does fit…I see you as a little energetic butterfly.. We could share shoes….I also wear a size 6…I save money on sneakers by buying a boys size 4.5 when I can find a pair I like…LOL

          • Katie says:

            That’s right, Cheerleader! I’m a little bit more voluptuous these days than I have been in the past, but my shoe size stays steady!

      • deighj says:

        Katie, talk about messy, you should see my house. My daughter has decided to “refresh” including painting the laundry. She’s pulled everything out of that room into the kitchen and great room. You need a guided map to make it through. Added to this is four indoor dogs. I’m in hiding as I write this.

        • Tracie says:

          I’m just the opposite girls my house has to be clean…..Since my hip problem…I haven’t been able to stay up on housework…..My husband has been doing the basics…but I did ask if the Dollar Store quit carrying Lemon Pledge… he just laughed….Lol

    • deighj says:

      Warning, rambling thoughts ahead!
      Laura, how do I describe thee? My first impression of you would be the warmth of your personality, the generosity of spirit you display toward all. I feel as though I could talk with you about any and everything and be understood. You’re intelligent and articulate. I think of you as a person who takes care of themselves and others in your life be what may. You’re intuitive not only with people but characters in your books. Most authors have problems depicting characters of the opposite sex, yours are spot on. As for physical appearance I think medium height, very attractive and with the curly locks per your picture on Amazon. Your warmth shines in that picture, no artifice.

      • Laura says:

        Thank you, Deighj,

        Thanks for your kind description. And you’re right. We could talk about anything together. I’m 5’8 which in my family is medium height.

  205. Laura says:

    Okay let see.
    Tracie is the easiest — beautiful, spitfire, funny, warm, smart, witty. Everyone in town know who she is. Nice southern accent. Lives on a big property and there is always an ongoing project. Surrounded by people who love her.
    Deighj — also from the south. I don’t know if she has an accent. Definitely warm, smart, introspective. She told us she’s tall and thin Also lives on a large property. I assume she has some family living with her — I could be wrong.
    Janet — I picture petite and fashionable. Very funny and quick witted. Warm. Self-deprecating in a good way. She’s a foodie. Lots of friends. Cool mom. Always moving.
    Katie — California girl. dry wit. smart, warm, a bit of a rebel. obviously very artistic so I picture eclectic tastes. Says what she thinks without apology. not afraid to get dirty. good mom. loyal. always thinking.

    • deighj says:

      Laura, thanks for your thoughtful description of me. I do have an accent though I spent years trying to eradicate because of a study done while in school. Giving our perceptions of each other reminds me of that study which ask that students place a person on a social/economic scale by listening to that person speak. The person that placed lowest was an African American who was president of Jacksonville University. That study came to mind because we are now giving our perceptions of each other without having met. But in living and raising a family I’ve out grown the concept that an area or accent defines a person. Everyone of you have been kind in your assessment of me and I thank you.

    • deighj says:

      Now I don’t need to write my thoughts of each of you. Laura painted each of you just as I see you. You are an intuit Laura.
      I’m a person who likes organization. Everything in place. My daughter is just the opposite and it drives me crazy!

  206. Katie says:

    Laura, I’m a mass of contradictions, but you’ve probably already figured that out. I’d love to hear your visions of us. This will be fun.

    • Katie says:

      Oh and I never saw you at a desk, Laura. Always in a comfy chair, in comfy clothes. And I could see you sitting in the dark because getting up to go turn on a light would mess up your flow. And you only eat when you can’t stand being hungry anymore.

  207. Katie says:

    Do you ever start a book and just wish they would get it on already? I loved that about A Sense of Belonging. No lead up. Casey was an effing rockstar, just went for it. #firsttimegoals

    • Janet says:

      Yes! I was surprised. I thought we had to wait for the “mandated” 50 % mark to see that. And she was a virgin. I’m tired of the build up love scenes too.

      • Laura says:

        Yes, people like the build up. It’s the formula romance. Buildup, together, misunderstanding — breakup — resolve, the end. My editor said “you didn’t follow the formula, but for some reason it works.”

        • Katie says:

          There’s plenty of build up in the story, I’m just glad they got the physical details worked out right away. Grace needs to bang Vaughn, like yesterday, in this book.

          • Laura says:

            their sex scenes are funny! I love that book!

          • Janet says:

            You are so funny. You have the sympathy/ empathy lady side to you then bam you come back with sex words that jar me with your street creds. Lol. Yes I always say too-Just get on with it. Too much build up doesn’t always work.

        • deighj says:

          Laura, thank the good Lord you don’t follow that formula in your writing! I’m beginning to think that is a major reason I love your books. I know that’s the reason I’m having major problems with other books I flip through.

          • Katie says:

            Agree! Every story has been told, but Laura tells it in a new way = talent! I laugh, cry, get mad. That doesn’t really happen to me very often when I read. I cried when Tony went MIA after that first night with Casey. But I didn’t hate him. How did you do that??

  208. Katie says:

    Deighj, I hope you’re feeling better today.
    Tracie- did you say farmhouse? My dream is to live in a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere, grow my own veggies, bake and read all day. My husband will hunt our food. Sounds amazing.
    I love Blake Shelton. And I love Gwen Stefani- she’s from my ‘hood.
    Janet- I have this image of you, not sure if it’s accurate, but you are hilarious, and I wish you were my neighbor. For some reason I see you gardening in big fluffy pink slippers and throwing out expletives in Korean. (I thought I read you’re from Korea). No?

    • Katie says:

      Is that a scene from a movie?

    • Janet says:

      You crack me up. You are from OC? I’m obsessed with Gwen stefani. Lol. I need her dermatologist’s number! Yes I’m korean and I do speak it with it with my parents but not with others. I guess I got lazy. And Lord knows I cannot grow anything. People give me potted herbs or cactus and I kill every single one of them. I do love an English garden have a beautiful yard though but that’s all on my gardener.
      I do love pink though. That color makes me happy! Katie we would be great neighbors. I would share my gourmet junk food with boxed wine with you anytime.

      • Katie says:

        Oh ok, maybe the vision was you in pink fluffy slippers walking your dead potted cactus to the trash at the curb and handing your gardener some cash on the way back to the house.

    • Laura says:

      It’s funny, I have images of all of you. I wonder how accurate they are. I don’t see the pink slippers. I don’t see a garden. Do you have a garden Janet?

  209. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Laura….How many more scenes do you have left to write and the usual where are we Lol? I laid in bed last night thinking how your mind must be on overdrive and trying to get every scene down just perfect. I imagine you bent over your desk and you laptop humming….something to drink near you, but not close enough for it to spill on your laptop or any papers. Chandler on a dog bed to the left of where you are sitting…You have to be in comfy clothes, because fighting emotional scenes would make you fall back in your chair at times and UGH Or Damn.. Your cell phone rings right in the middle of a scene you are trying to get out of and you think about launching it, realizing you don’t have enough time to go out a buy another…You are just finishing your last few lines feeling relieved you came out on the other side of the scene. You lean back in you chair with a sigh of relief and that gives Chandler just enough room to slap your thigh with his paw, needing a trip to the Dog Park. The End….

    • Janet says:

      Tracie, you have outdone yourself. I can see Laura this way. Sometimes I imagine her in the kitchen sitting at the breakfast table eating her Luna bar as she types away. Then carrying her laptop to the refrigerator to get gattorade(don’t know why) because the laptop is attached to her hips.

      I honestly think we are losing it now. Lol

    • Laura says:

      Good morning! I’m afraid to say how many scenes are left. They just keep popping up. I do know that I’ve reached the word count I always aim for but I still have lots to write.

      Today, I’ve been with Lina and her boss. Moving on to a family scene and then some tweaking to the new York trip. This novel is really reminding me of AWPF. Work as well as fun — A Sense of Belonging was pure fun — just wrote it from beginning to end. I’m moving scene all over the place. What I thought was the climatic scene isn’t. Anyway, It’s all coming together.

      I never write at my desk. I sit in a worn, soft, brown leather club chair in my family room. Usually a cup of coffee sits on the end table beside me. Chandler is on the couch or on the ottoman in close proximity. I’m usually in sweats or jeans — always something comfortable. I listen to music — a mix of Adele, Vance Joy, Passenger, Ed Sheeran, The fray, Christine Perry etc.

      My phone is on silent for everyone but my father and daughter. I receive about 15 calls a day,so there is no way I can leave the ringer on.

  210. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls….Katie my daughter felt your pain yesterday…She has a two year old and his preschool had a parade too….she was exhausted by 7 last night …..I remember those days with fondness, enjoy them they fly by…

    Katie I’m turning more toward what you and J-Girl are hoping for and that is Lina being Liam’s full time mom, but I know however Laura spins their future it will be the right one for them all.

    Deighj hope you are feeling better sweetie…

    J-Girl how is the condo coming? We slowed down on the farmhouse until I’m more mobile…

  211. Katie says:

    Halloween started for me at 8:30am with a parade at my daughter’s school and the festivities just stopped now. This mama is tired.
    I started Unsticky. But it’s really hard for me to get into a book right now. Wish me luck.
    I’m sure the misunderstanding has something to do with Kim making something look like something else- that’s what she does. I have no idea what’s going to happen to Kim. Maybe a new dude and second pregnancy?? But she hardly seems ready to move on from Phil. I feel like it’s something that will end up with Lina and Phil having full custody. Neglect, or a new job that interferes with being a mother.

  212. Tracie says:

    I did not murder anyone on the bus…but that didn’t stop me from thinking about it Lol…Yes on Blake’s accent and mine is pretty much the same…his ranch is about 1.5 hours away from my house and Reba and Carrie Underwood’s families are about 30 to 45 minutes away from me..

    LOL on the sprinklers and dog barking doorbell…My husband installed an electronic gate at my driveway so no one can get up the drive if I’m home alone, it also helps that I have a huge German Shepherd that is always by my side…

    I’m thinking she will try to get close to Phil anyway she can…Remember when you asked if she would try to get on cases with his firm etc…I think kim would try anything and people would whisper if they were in the same room without a doubt……

  213. janet says:

    LOL. You didn’t murder anyone on that bus??!

    I watch the voice too when I can. I like your fellow Oklahomian(?) Blake Shelton. Does he have the right accent in your opinion?

    I’m tired. Ran out of candy and turned on the sprinkler and changed the door bell sound to dogs barking to keep the kids away. Let’s get back to the what ifs tomorrow. That’s more important. I have been mulling over your scenario from last night and I just can’t see Phil sharing the same air space as Kim willingly. The associates would whisper knowing their past no? Did I ask you guys this already last night? What if this is the misunderstanding? Phil is forced(even if he’s a partner) to work alongside Kim(even if she’s with another firm) for a night and he didn’t want to hurt Lina so didn’t tell her. Lina found out and shiz hit the fan.

  214. Tracie says:

    I was watching the Voice and this girl said where she sees herself singing Electro Pop! My husband said “Babe what is Electro Pop? I told him I would have to use my lifeline Janet on that one, because I had absolutely no idea….Lol

    When my daughter was in HS we thought about that connection thing too and a bunch of families went to Disney World on a bus to a Cheerleading competition. It was like the damn funny farm on wheels….when I got home I rolled out of that bus and kissed the parking lot pavement….Me and another mother (just like us) said we would wash the uniforms and ended up in the bar most evenings…..Lol.

  215. janet says:

    Hi. I sent the kids out with their friends for an hour. They are too big to trick or treat but I said OK to one last time. I wish it was raining here so I don’t have to answer the door..Electro pop? how did this come up funny lady? I signed up for some Master Class for the kids over the summer and I think I saw one on electric music. Maybe that’s it.

    The lunch was fun but so glad it’s over. I don’t love hosting anything but feel the need once a year so the moms stay connected.

  216. Tracie says:

    Hope you’re feeling better Deighj…Love you too!

  217. deighj says:

    I love you Sugar!!! You don’t know what Electro Pop is. I don’t either. Is it synthesized music?
    Night all, just catching up with everyone.

  218. Tracie says:

    Janet speaking of songs….what the hell kind of music is Electro Pop?

  219. Tracie says:

    Pouring down rain here, miserable night for Trick or Treating, but I live in the country and don’t get any children out here. So glad the novel is going to be long Laura, I can hardly contain myself…Lol…

  220. Janet says:

    You know that is music to my ears Laura. Please I beg you don’t let the editor delete anything. Oh that movie!!! I listened to that song incessantly too. How about that song he wrote for her. and the dog. And bradleys dirty hair. “Let me take a look at you.” Wah wah wah.

    I ordered candy from amazon. Ate 3 Mini bags of Swedish fish for dinner last night. Will turn off lights at 7:30.

    Tracie, you are right. We are desperate coming up with the scenes. Lol. I think the only one left is what happens to Kim? What if we guess right? Bahaha. Yeah right

  221. Katie says:

    Hi friends, my whole day is Halloween festivities. I’ll check in tonight!!

    • Laura says:

      This novel is going to be long. Logan’s girlfriend was not in the first novel so no way for you to know who she is.
      I forgot to buy candy. I just turned off the lights — bad house. Chandler would have hated it anyway.
      Deighj hope you’re feeling better. No flu shot for me this year!
      Janet — I saw A Star is Born the other night. I can’t stop listening to the song Shallow

  222. Janet says:

    Hi guys. Shooooot. I feel so bad now telling you now to get the flu shot. Damn it. I wonder if it aggravated your virus. Feel better Deighj

    I don’t think it’s that Lisa with the big boobs. Didn’t Laura’s say he broke up with one girl and now dating another? I know I make up things in my mind so I’m probably wrong.
    I’ll check in a bit later. I have to host a lunch for some moms at my house. Hate these things but you gotta do it for kids. I tell you I don’t know how I became friends some of these women because I didn’t choose them.

    • Tracie says:

      You are easy to love J-Girl…You got that spark that draws people…I forgot about the breakup. I thought it was Lisa…

  223. Tracie says:

    Morning Deighj…So sorry you feel bad honey,,,,rest and drink plenty of fluids….yes my question regarded Logan, Liam and Phil and what your thoughts would be on how their relationship would turn out in the end…you know I have anxiety about Logan every few weeks Lol…Your comments calm me like the essential oils when I get my massage…

  224. deighj says:

    Sugar would your suspicion about Logan’s GF be the older girl in WPF’s swimming scene?

  225. deighj says:

    Mornin ladies. Sorry for checking out so early yesterday. Doctor says I have an upper respiratory infection. I’m on Breo which about breaks the bank even with copay. So if what I post doesn’t make sense let me know. I’m foggy brained today.
    Sugar: What was the question J-Girl referred to in her post? Was it regarding Phil and Logan’s relationship?
    J-Girl & Katie: The new picture of Casey is perfect. Beautiful and sexy. I have no problem with associating pictures with movie stars as I don’t know any of them unless they come up in a newsfeed. Last movie I saw was when I took my son to see a midnight showing of Mortal Combat years ago.

  226. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls. I may be wrong but I think I might have a sneaking suspicion who Logan’s girlfriend is in SN? Does anyone else have the same????

    Happy writing today Laura….Who are we writing about today….Miss talking to you, but know you have to focus….

    • Laura says:

      Good Morning — I miss you girls too. The truth is I’m not commenting as much because I’m not letting myself read your scenarios — I’m at a point where I can’t let them in my mind. I don’t want to second guess what I’ve written. I’m happy that you are able to carry on without my input though. I still want to answer your questions, so I skim the comments looking for them — if I’ve missed any I apologize.

      Today I’ve finished my Logan scene and I’m at work with Lina. I should have some covers to show you everyone soon — within the next week anyway

      • Tracie says:

        I’m probably wouldn’t read them either they are getting desperate….Lol…. can’t wait on the covers….Have a great writing day…Hope my Logan is happy

  227. Janet says:

    Shoot I deleted my post accidentally. Now I’m wondering about how Kim makes it known to Phil he can have sex with her whenever? Phil says this when talking to Mike remember? It must be when Phil drops Liam off. I so wish he had a middle man to do this.

    • Tracie says:

      Laura said in a comment that Kim has full custody of Liam and Phil has visitation and any legal custody agreement between the two wouldn’t be done until after Phil and Lina were back together…Once they accept Liam, it would definitely be easier…

    • Tracie says:

      I guarantee she answers the door half naked and drops all type of sexual innuendos on the phone and in person….

      I’m thinking about the 1am incident….What if Phil’s legal team is working on case with her new firm and Phil gets up to leave for a minute, his phone is on the table and rings with an incoming call from Lina….Kim excuses herself and answers and says…I have him indisposed at the moment, he’ll be home when he’s home….hangs up…Witch slides the phone back in place before Phil notices….

      • janet says:

        I’m thinking why is he in the same room with her voluntarily? Has he not learned his lesson.
        Do you guys think Kim was okay with being pregnant and will go through it again with someone else? Laura said she barely gained any weight but even if it’s a few pounds I would think Kim wouldn’t like it.

        • Tracie says:

          Kim thought Liam was a means to an end, getting and keeping Phil. Phil is a professional, so if he had to work with her firm, I think he would. But he wouldn’t notice her…he would be just like at the wedding….I hope he’s always like he was in that one scene wrenching his arm out of her hold, never allowing him to touch her…

  228. Katie says:

    How about this. Kim will have Liam without Nanny help for let’s say a week, and he will come to Lina and Phil with a diaper rash, dirt under too-long nails, and spaghetti sauce in his hair??

    • Tracie says:

      I can see that….Kim thinks Lina is beneath her…so no nanny help she would definitely pull Phil in, Phil would have to pull Lina in because he has to work….She probably thinks of Lina as the help anyway….

      • Tracie says:

        Her is another thought what would Adele say if Lina had to bring Liam to work with her, because he was unexpectedly dropped on Phil and Lina….Haha. I can only imagine

        • Tracie says:

          Got one more ending strategy..Laura is going to come back tomorrow and say not happening….What if Phil is offered a high powered judgeship in Washington and the Hunter’s move….Too many things to overcome with this strategy though….schools, family and Kim could just move too….They could meet in Baltimore every other weekend in a neutral place to swap Liam out….Pros and cons to this scenario…Would a judge make as much as Phil?

          • janet says:

            no judges don’t make much and Phil doesn’t have the personality to be a judge. Wherever Phil goes Kim follows then what??

      • Katie says:

        I was thinking it would be evidence of her true motherly nature- neglectful. What would Kim need to do to get full custody of Liam?? This is the question I’m thinking of. Liam without Kim is a lot easier to take for the family.

  229. Janet says:

    Hmmm. These are scenes we revisit over and over. Our favorites. Lol. Ok Kim will totally say that but in a more cutting way. I don’t think she would use possessive and Lina in a same sentence. I can see her lying and saying “ Phil, look at what Liam’s wearing. Do you remember the little shop we passed before dinner in NYC and I commented how cute the outfit was? I had them ship it to me.” Or. “My favorite boy knows his daddy. My father commented the other day how Liam has Phil’s eyes but he has my lips. What do you think Lina?” Lord I can go and on. This witch will suffer. Lina can say you have fish trout for lips Kim. Your father is sadly mistaken. I’m sick too. I need Lina to beat her up so bad.

    Regarding Logan, I can’t see him quitting. His friends are there. He will gravitate more towards gf and friends and push Phil’s buttons. He idolized his dad…

  230. Tracie says:

    Okay girls I’m feeling Logan anxiety after Laura’s scene today..You girls know I get this every few weeks….I’ve probably wore J-Girl down with what about Logan scenarios…So Deighj and Katie tell me what you think is going to happen between Phil. Logan and Liam…..I know I won’t get over this until I read it..Ugh!

    • Katie says:

      I think Logan is going to go a little wild, because his father, once the symbol of restraint, good manners, honor, etc., failed him. They’ll fight. Logan night even try to throw a punch. But I think as Lina grows to accept Liam, so will Logan. I wonder if that anger will help him in Lacrosse.

      • Katie says:

        Or I could see him quitting Lacrosse altogether because he has lost respect for his dad and isn’t trying to please him anymore. This could be a good thing. And then there will be some trigger that allows Logan to see his dad with a different set of eyes. Not sure what that’ll be.

        • Tracie says:

          I don’t think he will get into trouble or quit Lacrosse…even though he is so hurt and upset by his dad and the pain he inflicted on his mom and the jealousy he has for Liam he still loves Phil and wants his approval (I think)….but agree on the trigger, I just wish I knew what it was…….Phil won’t allow disrespect, but he also told Logan in Chapter 38 he would not lose him…It’s going to be a tear wiper….

          • Tracie says:

            Laura said in one comment Logan finds his voice…I have a feeling Phil is going to have a lot of heartache when he feels the full impact of the hurt he’s caused Logan too!

          • Katie says:

            This is why I’m not a story teller. I’ll stick to Pinteresting. I have no idea what will happen but I’ll be crying ugly for sure.

          • Tracie says:

            You are a good story teller you boards prove that Katie…

  231. Janet says:

    Ooh. Love the new sultry Casey!! Tony definitely wants her. She’s so hot. Perfect couple!
    Laughed out loud at what Tracie wants to do with Gandy.
    Hi Deighj, what do you think of Tracie’s question and Katie’s new Casey? I think we are all in sync here.

  232. Katie says:

    Casey has been replaced.

    • Laura says:

      so good! It makes me want to read the book lol — I’m serious! I’m going to.

    • Janet says:

      Sorry guys. I couldn’t look before now. First, Laura I think we all wish If we had a dream guest for dinner you would be it. Oprah who? I mean that sincerely. Bless your brilliant mind and more importantly your kind heart!
      Katie, I’m sorry for today. I’ve only been to a few funerals so far but I have found them to be so much more meaningful than weddings. I certainly don’t look forward to any but sharing the moment and celebrating how that person lived and impacted everyone’s life is always heartening. Ugh. Don’t like having heavy heart days though.
      I can look for a Casey tonight. I was thinking Jessica Alba but she has a baby face like Keri no? I’ll look at your blonde Casey.
      I just want Phil to be protective towards Lina and have his hand somewhere on her at all times. If he shows too much affection Kim could and would totally turn it around and make it about her. now thar she has nothing to hide from Phil, she may look forward to confronting both at once.

      • Tracie says:

        What if Kim does do that in a scene with them together…That would spin me up…She would have to either confront them in a social environment or a bump and stab maneuver!!! I doubt Phil would allow Kim anywhere near his home and Lina wouldn’t be caught dead near hers…So let’s say….Phil and Lina are hand in hand leaving one of Logan’s Lacrosse games and they run into Kim (Plannes maneuver of course) pushing Liam in a running stroller around the asphalt track that encompasses the sports complex…Liam starts saying Dada. Keeping his hand in Lina’s he bends down to kiss Liam’s forehead, never acknowledging Kim. Phil straightens to his full height pulling Lina securely into his side and turns to walk away. Kim says well I’m glad you weren’t this possessive over her the four months you were in my bed or we wouldn’t have this little man. I just made myself sick…

  233. Tracie says:

    Oh honey so sorry for that family…Life is meant to be lived that’s why we shouldn’t hold grudges, not share our love or try to live our dreams…we are only promised today…

    Based on what you said Katie, do you girls think Kim will throw that in Phil’s face in one of their scenes together, where Phil is mad over something she did to Lina….

    • Katie says:

      I’m ok! This man was so funny and optimistic. Sounds cliche, but he wouldn’t want a tear shed over him. He would want us to live our best lives in his honor.

      I definitely think Kim will throw that out there. And it will make Phil feel bad, because it’s true.

      I’m on a mission to find a better Casey! I’m glad you like the boards- they’re fun.

  234. Laura says:

    Hi Girls!

    I loved the storyboard — I do get what Janet is saying and I loved Felicity so yes I do think of that show when I see Casey. There was another curly-haired blond Katie found that was good and I didn’t know who she was — maybe she’s better. She can decide. Everything so clearly depicts what I was trying to describe — the house etc. wow — you are so talented.

    I love hearing about the book recommendations — I’m saving them for later. I can and do sometimes read a book or more a day — not now obviously. I have to stay focused.

    Tracie — I’m happy you got so much sleep. Today I was with Lina, Phil and Logan — tough writing. It was emotional

    Thanks for all the kind words.

    Katie — I hope you’re doing okay…

    • Tracie says:

      You know that kills me….was it Poor Logan or Poor Phil or was it emotional to get to happy…

      I cut my hours today, yesterday when I got home my eyes looked like two egg yolks in a glass of buttermilk I was exhausted…

    • Tracie says:

      I hate that it was so emotional for you…I bet you are exhausted and hope you are eating…..take care sister and rest…

  235. Katie says:

    Oh girls. So heartbreaking. Unexpected death at 48, leaving behind a wife and 2 girls (preteen and HS). I could literally feel the pain emanating from them. Funerals are the biggest reality check- about our own mortality, how we should live our lives, love freely, chase dreams.
    Not to rank a fictional story with real life, but an affair hardly compares to death.
    I think Phil will definitely be possessive in front of Kim. I know we hate Kim, but as the OW it would kind of make her scratch her head because where was his protectiveness/consideration of his wife when he was banging her. I wonder if that will annoy Lina too. Don’t hate me. I’m Team Phil, but still.

  236. Tracie says:

    Hello you sweet babes…..sorry chiming in so late, but I slept 12 hours last night and had a whirlwind morning and afternoon. Katie I loved the board, I LOVE Gandy…..I would stick to him like a locust shell to a tree, just saying. Sorry you are having to go to a funeral today cutie… My Deighj and J-Girl, you two are just providing fillers while our Captain is preparing our new route of excitement. I don’t think Laura would be offended, she knows she is our favorite….No cheaters here….

    Girls, do you think Phil will do the possessive hold with Lina, if Kim approaches them, like he does with Nick. (Protective Hold being both arms around her middle and pulled into his body) We talked about the protective hold where he would slightly put her behind one shoulder, if Kim approached them. I think Phil would also want Kim to realize how possessive he is of Lina, don’t you???

    Laura..I know the day is almost over…but where are we you little working warrior??? Appreciate you too….

  237. deighj says:

    Gosh I do hope Laura knows how much she means to all of us. I love her, not just her writing. I have met several authors but never one as gracious and forgiving as she.
    Gonna try a sample of The Night We Met, just to see…and now duty calls, dirty dishes and all.

  238. deighj says:

    Sugar Tater how’re you doing today? Tater’s a nickname used just as your dad did here in the south. My husband’s nickname for our daughter is one that use to send me up in flames. As she got older he stopped using it thank the good Lord. She is his mini me and has taken his place as gasoline to my diminished fire.

  239. deighj says:

    Oh Katie, such a beautiful day for such a depressing event. Hope you’re okay.

  240. deighj says:

    I hope Laura isn’t offended by our discussing other books/authors on here. Laura is my favorite writer and both WPF and SN will always be my all time favorites. I read a lot of books but never obsessed about any of them. Everything she writes is a good read.

  241. deighj says:

    J-Girl: I’ve read Splintered awhile back and enjoyed but will have to download a sample to remember details. Just found Stinger, Mia Sheridan is a good author. Leo and Leo’s Chance are both good. Don’t remember that storyline either. Usually have to read reviews to remember details. Got Thin Line on standby. Loved Evidence of the Affair, ended as it should have. I do wonder how David feels about having a child he’ll never see, or if sporadic correspondence will continue. I cannot imagine his character not wanting contact.

    • janet says:

      Deighj, I love Mia Sheridan but her recent ones have been misses. I have read Leo duet and loved Archer’s Voice too. Stinger I loved because it’s a porn star theme done right. lol. I too thought Evidence ended the right way and I think David will contact them in the future. That’s how I saw it.
      I finished The Night We Met. It was lovely and depressing at the same time. I now categorize it as women’s fiction and not really a chick lit. The husband does cheat in his 50s but similar to Phil, he only ever love his wife and they do have a good life till the end.

      Laura is our manna and she knows this. Every book is a poor substitution until Swimming Naked comes out.

  242. Katie says:

    I did run Tony and Casey by Laura. Everything else is just my interpretation of descriptions in the book. I do seem to be able to see into Laura’s mind, and she approved it before I posted it. I literally could not find a no name model that fit the description of Casey, but I’m more than happy to change it if you find a better one. I agree that using actors can be dangerous.
    Headed to a funeral today, but I’ll check in later so you girls can cheer me up.

  243. deighj says:

    Spot on Katie! You are a very talented gal. Can’t wait till we hear from J-Girl and Sugar. Needless to ask but did you and Laura collaborate on this board?

    • Janet says:

      Oooh I love it too!!! Love Tony, the black booth restaurant, Tony’s house as I imagined and Casey’s short black skirt and the dog!! You are awesome Katie!! Ok don’t kill me but don’t love Keri Russell as Casey. I like her but actors have such strong personas and if we know the body of their work it’s harder for fans to visualize them outside the roles they’ve portrayed. I think that’s why I prefer no name models so I could project the personalities onto them. Just my thought. But I’m happy if you guys are. Oh also loved that Gandy model in a suit as well. Lol

  244. Tracie says:

    After swooning over Deighj’s story…I had to go read the part in Chapter 17 where Phil is going to the bathroom at the wedding and Lina kisses his check promising she’ll be good and he captures her lips in a slow kiss…swoon plus the witch was watching…

    .Laura I can’t wait to see Phil swoon Lina again….I hope there is bunches…..

    • janet says:

      That chapter was so important to me. Loved and hated at the same time and studied every word Laura wrote. And now I know who I imagine Phil to be. Kevin Costner in his 40s. And Lina is Madeline Stowe in her 30s. Lol.

  245. Tracie says:

    Oh Deighj….Your love story is so beautiful….He sent you up because you were his heart and soul….Wiping my tears you sweet doll…

    My daddy use to tell me Tater (his nickname for me) can you give daddy’s ears a rest….Lol So glad someone likes to listen to me…

  246. deighj says:

    J – Did she join the nunnery? Downloaded Evidence, still on Amazon lookin. As for television the reason for that dislike is I grew up w/o it and at the end of the work day it takes time away from reconnecting with your spouse and children who nod off watching mindless crap.
    Katie – You’re here now and I’m so glad you are. You’ve added a lot to our discussions. Is the latest Pinterest board finished? Thought you said you’re close.
    As for you Sassy Sugar: Dang I love your stories. You should write those in a journal for your kids. I could sit for hours listening to you.
    Laura, don’t want to bother you, you’re probably doubling down on our favorite book. Had a question I was going to ask but in catching up I forgot!
    Thank you for your sentiments about my man. He’s smiling cause we’re talking about him. He was the gasoline to my fire, how he loved sending me up…and laughing about it. Never learned even knowing he did that at times.

    • Janet says:

      You are making me tear.
      You know I got the book thinking she joined the nunnery and there was some inner struggle because she was meant to be with him. That never happens. He writes her a letter asking her to marry him because he knows they are soul mates. This is on chapter 4. Again her writing is good but the last chapter made me sad. Their life spans 40 years. I don’t think there’s cheating. evidence is all about cheating and it’s through letters.

    • Janet says:

      How about Splintered Memory by Natascha Holloway. That’s cheating theme. I also really liked Stinger by Mia Sheridan. The guy is a porn star in the beginning. And eden Butler’s Thin Love Series was angsty and good.

    • Katie says:

      I should be done tonight…you’ll probably see a link in the morning. ?

  247. Janet says:

    Deighj, I just read the ending to the night we met. Don’t get it. It’s not HEA. It’s well written but had a weird feeling and just read the last chapter. It’s chick lit.

    • Tracie says:

      Who wrote Night We Met and I don’t like it if it’s not an HEA!

      • Janet says:

        Tara Taylor Quinn. I read her harlequin before and I liked it but now she’s writing chick lit. Thank God this was a library book.

        • Tracie says:

          You may think this nuts, but I feel like I wasted energy if they don’t have an HEA….Hell life is hard enough. I want an HEA in my books……

          • Janet says:

            Oh my gosh. Don’t get me started. Unless I’m reading a suspense thriller I need my HEA. I remember reading One Day(they made a movie with Anne Hathaway) not knowing the heroine dies at the end. I got to the part and I was so mad. Felt like I wasted a whole week.

  248. Tracie says:

    Hi all you sweet girls….Loved your stories so sweet. Deighj my husband was also a builder and a carpenter by trade. Once he took his civilian job at the base there was a Kim, well two Kim’s really…He had ask me to bring him a check after lunch to buy some material on his way home from work. He was in the HQ Bldg doing truss inspections…I head toward the east wing because he told me where he was and I went to round the corner and heard Kim Jr. She had broke up one marriage already and she was a beautiful woman and dressed like a million bucks…I stayed back because of my first husband, I was holding my breath I needed to hear their conversation …He was up on a ladder and his shoulders and head were in the attic, but you could still see his face. My man was eating an apple and she was leaned up against his ladder and said Can I have a bite of your apple?? He gave a cool smile and said I only share my apple with one woman and it’s not you. I let them see me then…I told her that picking her ass up off the floor would be added to her job description if she ever pulled that shit again….he just said Easy Sweetheart…I had been in the field all day so I was sweating, had on a T-Shirt and jeans…ugh

    • Tracie says:

      Deighj you are such a sweetie. You now have a guardian angel sweet lady….he was blessed to have you too!

      • Tracie says:

        Sugar is on ice Deighj…my leg is swollen and I’m cutting back to 3 hours tomorrow…I love you girls…Thanks so much for asking

    • Janet says:

      Omg. Dressed like a million bucks asking for a bite of his apple. I can’t believe it! I must share this with my sister.
      Ugh Tracie. Feel better!!!

      • Tracie says:

        Kim Jr II turned out to be a half stalker and went to a boat safety class that he and our son went too and set beside our son. joined forces with his ex and used her position to get into his personnel record to get his phone number and address….my mama took that little birch down…went to her supervisor and wiped her out…

  249. janet says:

    I am sorry too. Now I love your story even more. I just remember you telling your husband you didn’t want TV when you moved back to Georgia.

  250. deighj says:

    Oh he looked alright but that was okay cause he knew I looked as well usually in retaliation. But I was subtle about it, didn’t want him to know that’s what I was doing. We had a great life and I miss him everyday.

  251. deighj says:

    Gonna go look for both right now J. I don’t think anyone spends as much time on Amazon as I do.
    Wondering how Tracie’s feeling after her first workday. With the bleeding I don’t understand why a doctor released her for work so soon after that mishap. Sugar are you still kicking?

  252. deighj says:

    J-Girl you’re a hoot! My husband was a very good looking man and women were always eyeing him. He was in residential construction and one of the first houses he’d build would be our house until build out. He and I often worked together until the babies came along. And even after I’d take the kids along straighten and clean as well as go for supplies.
    Some of the worst of those women were real estate agents. I made it my business to set em straight. My foxy guy always just laughed about it.

  253. deighj says:

    I think that’s true for everyone on this blog Katie. We’re all besotted with how Laura is going to bring resolution to the Hunter’s story. I’ve lived with the questions left at the end of WPF for almost a year. As I’ve posted before, after WPF I’ve never been so invested in any book as with Laura’s duet and I usually read one to two books a day. I’m beyond frustrated.

  254. janet says:

    interesting. I guessed Tracie and Deighj’s responses but Katie’s came as a surprise. I am only team Phil because I am team Lina. I know Lina can’t be happy without Phil so I’m rooting for them and I’m banking on a kinder( to Lina) and more vulnerable Phil in SN.

    Deighj, you are so right but in my case my husband doesn’t cheat because he’s scared of me and he fears God. Given the chance I think most men will cheat and forego the talk.

  255. deighj says:

    Not for one minute does a man forget he’s married. If he’s at the point where he’s attracted to another woman and considering an affair, no matter what’s going on at home, he needs to sit down and have a discussion with his wife. Let her know how fragile their relationship is.
    That position is at odds with any book I read. I don’t read books that separates a family for good, there has to be redemption. Though I have read books where the divorce is in the past or even where there’s divorce but the husband repeatedly cheated. I could never regain trust once it’s been shattered. I couldn’t live with always wondering. But I’ll always be for redemption especially for Phil. I fell in love with him and wanted him home.

    • Katie says:

      I totally agree about the communication part. But I don’t think there’s enough thinking involved for that to always happen. Phil had a knee jerk reaction, made an impulsive decision that first night. Sure he should’ve told Lina he was feeling that insecure, unwanted, angry, etc. Or he should’ve told her after the one night stand. Before it continued. But does that ever really happen? Without the baby he probably wouldn’t have told her. I don’t know…it’s very complicated. That’s why it would be really important for me to know what he was thinking during that 4 months. Thank God for SN or I might never live in peace again.

  256. Tracie says:

    Well girls I’ve put out communication fires, but during my absence IT folks ran a patch and I can’t get into any of my files or my email, but I can surf the internet, go figure…only 8 of us by the way that it happened too!! UGH!!!

    You feel shock and a sick feeling, then hurt and anger. When Lina asked the question was it the first time and he said yes…time would tell with me, just like it did with her. I could accept the baby too….I would admire my husband for stepping up and not putting his head in the sand. However, I would not deal with Kim, she is not part of the family, nor would she ever be and he would have to ensure that was made very clear. Life is to short to be unhappy, and just because he made a mistake doesn’t mean my families lives and happiness should deteriorate. Take care of it My Phil…..

  257. deighj says:

    My question is for all of you. What would you do if you were in Lina’s position. Just finding out your husband has had an affair, let alone gotten her pregnant?

    • Katie says:

      I think I could forgive- our time together would make up for the transgression. The baby would be ridiculously hard to take, and that part would anger me most. Like HELLO asshat, if you didn’t want her to get pregnant and/or be tied to her forever, you should’ve protected US. But I could get over that too, IF and ONLY if his explanations satisfied me. I would also look inside myself and own a small part of the blame, which would make it easier to forgive. I wouldn’t deal with Kim, like Tracie said.
      Of course my ability to forgive and stay would be different at different life stages. But 25 years in, 3 kids, yes I could move forward.

    • janet says:

      Ugh. Such a difficult question. I just want some HEAs I can escape to. My answer hinges upon the reasons. You may be surprised to hear yes I can move past the cheating but I would need to know how long the affair lasted and if his emotions were involved. If I don’t like the answers it’ll be harder for me to forgive and I doubt I will ever forget. If there is a child as the result of the affair, I don’t know if I can move forward in the relationship. I would be obsessed(you don’t say!) with the OW and feel betrayed every time I looked at the baby and no child deserves my resentment or hate. At that point I would ask for a big child support and get fat and happy eating cakes galore. However, my life is never this dramatic and my ongoing battle is having separate bathrooms. You’d think after 19 years of marriage we could agree on this but no I had to yell at my husband just this morning. sorry, TMI but it’s the honest truth.

  258. Laura says:

    Hi ladies!

    Today I am in scenes involving Liam’s introduction to the family.

    • Tracie says:

      What is the emotion meter doing????? When you say family are we talking immediate or extended????

      • Laura says:

        It’s the lead up to the first scene in the book — so immediate family only and the emotion level is different for each of them — how is that for being vague 😉

        • Tracie says:

          You are rocking the vague…but I’m glad…you know I want surprises, but really really want to know too!!! I also know you want Logan to be a surprise, you are really vague there…but I need to be surprised there as well….I hope I don’t acquire any further injuries straddling this fence…LOL

  259. deighj says:

    Hey J-Girl. I’ going back to The Naked Truth and try to finish it. As for the length of time it takes Lina to accept Liam I think it’ll take a few visits and Lina discussing this issue with Phil. After all when Lina first sees Liam’s face she will be looking into the eyes of Phil’s infidelity. But when she sees how ill equipped Phil is in taking care of Liam’s needs that will melt her heart. I don’t think it will take months. She will feel the strain this puts on their relationship.

    • Tracie says:

      Deighj, I hope he is ill equipped to handle Liam, I would love it. Seeing him kind of fumbling around and Lina taking over….It would be so cute…

  260. Katie says:

    Hi girls, I know it’s no Kim massacre scene or SN book release, but I’m finishing up a photo board for Sense of Belonging. Woot woot.

  261. janet says:

    Hi Ladies. Tracie I hope your stitches stay intact and you brought some Motrin to get you through today. Check in with us later and let us know how your day went. I’m sure Adele jr and the rest of the team is so happy to have you back!

    Laura I will ask what everyone is dying to know. … our daily ritual at this point. Are we with Phil and Lina, Phil and Kim, Lina and Kim(?!?! Ha) or none of the above?

  262. Laura says:

    Good luck, Tracie! I’ll be thinking about you.

  263. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls…If you could see me this morning you would be doubled over doing the Bahahaha….I’m going to work for half a day and I can’t find a pair of pants to go over my compression bandage, so I’m wearing jogging/yoga type pants….That’s screams professional…….I’ll check in with you girls when I can…..Have a good day…..

  264. Janet says:

    Is it a wrong time for me to admit Phil saying just get over it kinda reassured me? I took it as since fling really meant nothing to him Lina shouldn’t harp on it. The main reason I struggled with Phil’s affair is his actions and words didn’t seem align with each other.
    Oh we will see justice and no thank you on Kim getting partnership unless Kim’s father is a lawyer.

    • Tracie says:

      You are exactly right, it was nothing to him, plus he didn’t want to lose Lina…. Phil loves her so much…I go back to the flashback after the incident where Phil told his dad. I’m not leaving her…and he changed colleges….He was a teenager…as a man she’s his and nothing will take her from him….he’ll fight!

      Now Kim…girls who cares if she moves up as long as she moves out of Phil and Lina’s life and Liam is taken care of. I know we want her worn and tattered, pushing a used shopping cart and selling pencils for a buck under a bridge, but I don’t see that happening. Just saying Lol

  265. Katie says:

    Oh no I just thought of something. What if there is no closure with Kim, and it just ends with Lina saying she has 4 children…which would be sweet and I know it’ll happen, but WHAT IF Kim is a loose string??!!

    I don’t think Lina’s acceptance of Liam has any bearing on Phil’s love for Lina. But it certainly impacts his happiness. The family’s happiness. I think Phil has no expectations just big hopes, because he knows what a loving, selfless person Lina is. I think he will become more patient in book 2…no more – But you forgave me! Get over it!- He’ll wait for her.

    • Tracie says:

      That’s good Katie…Phil and Lina are soulmates…I think everything will be on Lina’s time. Joseph put Ned in his place and I have a feeling Phil will do the same to Kim…I’m also thinking roles may reverse and Kim will become the visiting parent….maybe she’s offered a partnership?????

  266. Tracie says:

    Lina will come to love Liam because he’s an extension of Phil. They will have a HEA….Phil has no conditions on his love for Lina…It’s all consuming for him. what do you think Deighj?

  267. Janet says:

    You remember Deighj is the only one who got the elf pj quiz right. How long do you think it’ll take Lina to love Liam? I know Tracie wanted it yesterday and I’m more torn about the time aspect. Also I thought of a what if. Would Phil love Lina as much as he does if she can’t ever fully love Liam? Knowing Lina I don’t think this will be case but I’m trying to gauge Phil’s level of love. Is it conditional upon Liam? What if she doesn’t want full custody. Then what happens? Will Phil come to resent Lina? Omg but I know this happened in other books.

  268. Tracie says:

    What do you girls think Phil’s wishes are between Lina and Liam. Do you think he wants her to accept him just because he’s his son and she’s his love? Phil knows Kim’s true colors and that she only has basic maternal skills…..So He wants Liam to have Lina’s nurturing just like his other children??

    • Janet says:

      I think he wants that. Not sure if he expects it. Especially after the first time. I just want Phil to put Lina first. I don’t want Liam to come between the two. I think we talked about this before but if it was the other way around and Lina is the one with a baby would Phil raise him as his own? I think he would. We have so many what if’s here I forget what we discussed.

      • Tracie says:

        Me too…I keep going back and forth. I remember Lina’s thoughts in WPF, what would Liam call her, what would her role be in his life…..I know her and Phil will talk about it….but I’m wondering what his personal thoughts will be…I just don’t think Phil would say when he’s with me your his mom….that might push it with Lina, especially at first…Maybe you are my wife and his stepmom??? Phil telling her Lina it’s whatever you want to be to him ? .
        But will his internal thoughts be I want you to love him like you love Logan? I want you to care for him like you did our kids? I want him to know your love?

        • Janet says:

          I can see him wanting Linas love for Liam but I don’t see Phil demanding more from Lina. Logan is her favorite. Megan is Phil’s. Katie is Linas twin with Adele’s attitude. Maybe with time Lina can accept and love Liam as much as Logan but that may happen after Logan goes to college. Too soon isn’t realistic. You know Linas studying his face and traits to see if he shows any signs of Kim. As much as we want to deny Liam’s birthmom lina will be studying him like a hawk. He still loves mommy Laura said. I wonder how long it’ll take Liam to prefer Lina to Kim.

  269. Janet says:

    Deigjh I just read the post above so I’m posting here. It’s a huge feat considering you couldn’t finish one before. Lol. What’s next on your list? I’m finishing up a library book so I’ll check the authors you recommended this week.

  270. Janet says:

    Happy Sunday! Tracie are you feeling better? Katie I have anxiety too. The first meet with Lina and Liam was sadder than I expected. Laura wrote it very realistically. And now that the release time is near I nave anxiety about Steamboat again. I know I know. Here she goes again. I just read yesterday’s don’t you dare scene again and I keep thinking how could you not realize how evil this woman was after a month. I don’t care if she was on her best behavior. Lord please keep me calm. I will have my answers in a month

    • Tracie says:

      I’m feeling better, thank you. Incision is closing up and I plan on working half a day tomorrow. I’m usually gone from the house 12 hours a day, but the doctor only wants me working a half day.

      That picture scene will be heartbreaking for Phil. Knowing Kim sent those to Lina on her BD and have to see them with her and hear how hurt and bitter she still is about SB.

  271. Tracie says:

    Leading up to Lina meeting Liam is about 30 percent of the book right ??? I’m trying to determine how much of the book Lina and the kids actually grow close with Liam….I know we fight the witch a ? percent of the book….Bitch….

    • Katie says:

      I can’t…so heartbreaking

      • Tracie says:

        You can’t what Katie girl?

        • Katie says:

          Think about Lina meeting Liam.

          • Tracie says:

            Did you read the first scene? I’ve read it several times and it is heartbreaking for both Phil and Lina,….but it will lead us to their HEA….I’m anxious to see if Lina just comes out and tells Phil she want to try harder with Liam or someone talks her into it….

          • Katie says:

            Yes, omg. Such a painful reminder. No matter how much progress they make there is still the baby. And Lina knows it’s not Liam’s fault- he’s just a sweet, innocent child. So many emotions. I can’t..

          • Tracie says:

            I know the emotions, WPF is the only book that has literally sent me into a hot flash and not because of a steamy, but plain shiver emotion…My ears even turned red. Lol

  272. Tracie says:

    Laura I just have to ask where are we….have you made it through the bar scene?

    • Laura says:

      We are almost to the scene where Lina meets Liam — in other words — I’ll be towards the tail end of the story again soon.

  273. Janet says:

    Guys my cell is at 8 percent. Have to look for a new faucet set now. My old one is too old and too expensive to replace. So mad I have to waste $. Good night. Loved gabbing with you guys today.

  274. Tracie says:

    Here’s an outfield for you, what if Lina gets baby fever after she accepts Liam and her and Phil have another baby to grow up with Liam…..

    • Katie says:

      I thought of this too!!! I had told Laura I hoped Kim met some other dude or otherwise decided she didn’t want Liam, and gave up her rights to him. Lina and Phil raise him as their own. Lina is a wonderful mother- she’ll accept Liam as her own, I have no doubt.

      • Tracie says:

        I think so too…we’ve talked about this a lot…I was torn about Lina having to raise Liam…When is her time??? But Lina is a caregiver…she’s happier when she is taking care of someone that’s her nature..so raising Liam would be okay with her….I remember in WPF, when Lina came down stairs and started taking orders for breakfast, I think Phil has an omelette…I thought to myself, my crew would eat what I put on the table or they could give me their best Gandhi impression…

        • Janet says:

          I thought that too about breakfast!! Omg I remember Logan saying he wanted omelette and pancakes and thought is she using a pancake mix because it’ll take forever. And for sure Linas a caretaker. She loved being a wife and mother but she’s done that. Let’s move her to another phase in her life. I think Liam is enough. Love your outfields Tracie

    • Janet says:

      I thought of this too before and I thought no. You age so much after having a kid and Linas now 43. She wants to retire and travel around the world with Phil but she has Liam so she can’t. If she has another baby she will be a grandma(if Megan and Katie get married )and mom at the same time. She also has a career now which I love. She finally has independence and 2 kids at once will age her and I don’t want to think of Lina this way. gives me the shudders.

      • Tracie says:

        Age would be against her and I also want her to have some independence and if she does end up raising Liam…I think with a nanny she could work part-time…..Phil wouldn’t want her to give that up….he grows too during SN….I would like to read their sweet conversation on the Thursday night that she’s in NYC….

        • Janet says:

          Come home now. You’ve been away long enough. I need you.

          Phil is a man of few words. Haha

        • Tracie says:

          Here’s another thought…the snippet with Logan and Phil on the stairs….Lina said don’t follow her….I don’t think in SN Phil will allow distance between him and Lina? He did that in WPF and was selfish for 4 months and she turned to Nick….I think he want allow her as much space in SN as he did one WPF???

        • Tracie says:

          I’m thinking more like I miss you baby….so you have any idea what I’d be doing to you if you were here. Wowza

  275. Janet says:

    She’s basically stalking him at this point. They changed the phone number she doesn’t care. He says don’t you dare move near me, she dared. He says you were nothing but an easy f , she probably laughed softly. Even if Lina asserts herself Kim doesn’t care. What else can Phil do? How do you reason with an irrational person? I just know Kim’s going to hurt Lina more. Phil needs to really find a way to restrain her.

    • Tracie says:

      Remember girls Lina is not a victim in SN….Laura and I talked about that once and we both agreed neither one of us could stomach it….This book is about Justice for Lina and Phil’s redemption….Because of Kim’s narcissistic personality…how will it end….that’s what’s got me baffled….

      • Tracie says:

        I’m really thinking another man….One like her May turn her head….I don’t think Laura is going to kill her off, prison would be good but I don’t see that either….After all the wedge tricks fail, it seems her ego would make excuses for her failure at getting Phil back and moves on to another target…

        • Janet says:

          Yes I can see this but I hate that she has a happy ending. Laura won’t kill her off. It’s just a running joke between us girls here. Ugh. And yes I see Phil’s redemption here and stronger Lina but justice for Lina we will see at the end.

      • Katie says:

        I never saw Lina as a victim. The strength it would take to STAY in that situation is off the charts. The backlash she’ll feel from society. Kim. She’s a fucking rockstar.

  276. Janet says:

    Shoot I posted and it disappeared. Maybe i tried with another account. Hmmm. Anyway this is what I said.

    This is what we know. Kim is a graduate of Columbia law and at 30, she is 10 yrs younger than our Lina. Kim always had guys tripping over themselves to get to her and the only man she pursued is Phil. I have a feeling she moved to MD after seeing Phil in court and got a job at his firm. In kims mind Phil belongs to her and since she’s younger hotter and smarter than Lina she doesn’t see Lina as her threat. What Kim wants Kim gets. Her arrogance knows no bounds.

    • Tracie says:

      There has to be a point where Phil says enough. But we can’t discount Lina either. Taking Phil back means she is willing to stand in the fire with him, that girls is true love….

      • Katie says:

        Ugh and there could’ve been nothing worse (better) for her Kim’s ego than getting Phil to have his one and only affair with her. Now she’s really on a mission.
        Do you think Kim will think differently of Lina now that she’s building her interior design career? And showing strength in her alliance with Phil?

        • Janet says:

          Exactly how Kim thinks.
          Do you mean does Kim see Lina as her equal now that she works? No would be my answer. She found so many reasons to soothe her ego. Mainly Phil can’t leave Lina because they have 3 kids together but it’s just a matter of time. She’s a planner. Something big is coming. There’s got to be something that breaks her. Laura said Kim needs to suffer….

  277. Janet says:

    At least we know Liam’s life was stable with a nanny. And we know he was seeing Liam every weekend. I wonder where Phil took Liam on the days he saw his son. So many questions. I keep imagining that white dress actress pulling these stunts and I wanted to shred her dress for some reason.

    • Tracie says:

      I’m picking up your hate vibes really bad J-Girl….I thought to myself in the flashback scene of Liam’s birth, if Phil thanks her for his son I’ll hurl…I hope he first meets him in the nursery, but the witch won’t allow that, she’ll lay there looking good wanting Phil to have some kind of Brady Bunch moment with her…ewwww

      • Janet says:

        Yes I remember your southern manners came out and thought thank Kim for ruining his life? I maybe imagining again but I think Laura added a remorse scene after seeing Liam. How he wished Lina had given birth instead.
        She looked better than Kate Middleton after birth you think? Of course she did. Remember Laura said she barely gained weight?

        • Tracie says:

          Whatever she is doing won’t compare with sharing the moment with Lina after his three other children were born….Laura said I will like Phil’s thoughts in that

        • Katie says:

          I bet Lina looked great after birth too. Yes Kim is an attractive attorney, and I’m sure a good lay, and can probably suck a golf ball through a garden how, but what else? She pursues married men. She’s not kind. She’s vindictive. Phil doesn’t and never wanted THAT. if she’s so sure of her worth, why is she going to such lengths to get this guy. Wouldn’t a narcicess just let him come to her?

          • Katie says:

            *garden hose

          • Tracie says:

            Not really…Most evil people are intellectual…Kim wants attention from Phil and she doesn’t care if it’s negative attention. Kim moving is a way (in her mind) of exercising control of Phil. Anyway she can do that she will. Kim also thinks Lina is weak so she will back door her every chance she gets…Kim may even think that Phil might leave Lina just to protect her…..

          • Katie says:

            I just read up on the definition.

            I hate her.

  278. Tracie says:

    I wouldn’t put it past Kim to try and hire Lina to redo the house she’s moving into or least do Liam’s nursery….

    • Janet says:

      Lol. You crack me up! She would offer minimum wage then tell Lina to do Liam’s room for free because he’s Phil’s son. Maybe Lina can whack her with her measuring tape this time.

  279. Tracie says:

    What better way to hurt Phil, than target Lina. I might be wrong but I bet Kim already has the house during this conversation and she was feeling Phil out. Lina threw Phil out once, so Kim is hoping if she’s in Lina’s face and neighborhood she’ll get fed up and cut Phil loose….Poor Phil

    • Janet says:

      You are so right! The devil needs to suffer big time.

      Omg I have plumbing emergency and I’m still checking this blog. I feel crazed now. Waiting for emergency plumber. I turned on the washer as we were about to leave the house and the kitchen sink water started running for no reason. It took me 10 min to find main water line. Lord

      • Tracie says:

        I hate plumbing issues…sorry to hear that Janet…might as well check while you wait. I’m laying on the couch on a compression bandage hoping my leg seals….This blog and you girls are keeping me from going bonkers…..I want to see Lina square off with Kim so bad and win….Lol…..

        • Katie says:

          I don’t understand how Kim thinks pulling these stunts will help her get Phil. It’s not attractive behavior. She’s definitely using his love for his son and the guilt he feels to get her way. If we didn’t know she was such a C that convo might actually sound like she cares about Liam- but we know better. He’s a means to an end.

          • Tracie says:

            Could Kim be hoping that maybe she could ride Phil to the ground and him just give up?? Not going to work, the key to this situation is Lina…When she joins forces with Phil and accepts Liam her kids will too, then they hold the power. It’s like you said when they stop reacting….but Phil is an Alpha no one will hurt Lina, with her he will always react to protect her…

  280. Katie says:

    Ladies, I’m headed to a Halloween party and will be out until tonight. I’ll be counting down the minutes until I can catch up with you. Have a good day!

    • Tracie says:

      Did you girls hear any dominance in her words? When she tells Phil: when I’m closer your best will be better”. or I think being closer to his father…Screw you Kim….Laura if you grace us with another snippet, is there like one that is a classy tough Lina….I just know somehow Lina is going to be an equal matchup for Kim. Kim may be narcissistic lawyer, but you have a mama bear fighting to protect the den…

      • Janet says:

        When were you going to tell me? Kim responds “that was fast.” She definitely has the upper hand here and loved sticking it to Phil. Phil is trying to hold on to his control. I think Kim likes seeing him lose it.

        • Tracie says:

          You are right J-Girl, even though she was mesmerized by Phil and obsessed with him, narcissistic Kim thinks she is the woman scorned verses Lina….She’s going after them both Lina and Phil….This is crude….but true… if she can’t fuck Phil, she’ll fuck him over….

          • Tracie says:

            Phil has to be strategizing himself. Phil has to wait on Lina to get onboard….The only way to get some control is legal custody documents but he can’t even consider that until Lina can accept Liam…