A White Picket Fence — Sequel

At the moment I am working exclusively on a sequel to A White Picket Fence — I have received an overwhelming number of requests for a conclusion to Lina and Phil’s journey — there are so many questions remaining in readers’ minds that I felt compelled to put the other novels on hold until I finish this story. I am shooting for a December release date. Thanks for your patience!

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  1. Tracie says:

    Girls, after reading comments from last, I’m definitely to soft heart where Logan is concerned and all in for
    Team Phil….so what do you girls think it will take for Logan to bring his walls down enough to forgive Phil and accept Liam? I’ve determined the only answer is time. Your thoughts?

  2. Laura says:

    Okay Ladies — the conversation has officially moved to a new blog post
    http://laurabranchflower.com/2018/09/swimming-naked-sequel-white-picket-fence/#respond

  3. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls….My scroll finger is getting a little tired too…..

  4. janet says:

    Good morning Ladies! Are you done with the good/bad snowstorm Laura? I have a question for you. Remember when Tracie and I were going back and forth on possible scenarios when Kim first seduced Phil at the bar in NYC? Tracie was afraid Phil revealed too many information to Kim and I was wondering if Phil noticed her before that night and that’s why it was easy for Kim to seduce. You said no sharing with Kim and Phil noticed her when he noticed her and that will be in the book. Do you mean SN or you will add that later to the original? I think it’s important for the readers to see exactly how and when the affair started so we know what issues Phil was going through at the time.
    Have a good day guys. I see that we have 1018 posts already!

    • Laura says:

      Hello!
      The snow storm is temporarily shelved. I’m back at the beginning of the novel. SN will address how and when the affair started. Do you think we should start a new blog so we don’t have to scroll?

      • janet says:

        Yes please ! I missed several but it’s too long for me to look for them. I saw Veronica posted a couple last night but still can’t find the others.

  5. Tracie says:

    Since you’re presenting it through Phil’s POV you are presenting the information in a new way…….The same thought pattern isn’t in play and watching what they have to go through together to solidify their relationship will give them both depth.

    • Laura says:

      That’s true. He definitely sees the world in a different way.
      How do you think Logan likes having Phil back in the house?

      • janet says:

        I don’t think he does. He still feels betrayed and doesn’t understand how Phil could stray from his mom and resents Liam. Am I wrong?

        • Laura says:

          He’s conflicted. He loves his dad but I don’t think he necessarily believes his mother should forgive him. Plus it’s difficult to adjust to not having a father at home and then have to readjust when he comes back. Especially an alpha type like Phil.

      • Tracie says:

        I thought about that a lot. I wondered if he felt he still had to take on Phil’s role of setting the alarm at night, etc. I also wondered if his feelings would be driven by Lina’s emotions. I think Logan would be cautious of Phil, not really trusting him fully. How will Phil convince Logan he won’t be weak again? He loves his dad though, he told Lina in Chapter 47 that it was better when Phil lived with them.

        • Laura says:

          Yes, the old life was better. The new life comes with Liam.

          • Tracie says:

            Laura I need a warm fuzzy on Logan and Liam….I’m feeling anxiety. The only way Logan is going to truly forgive is seeing Lina happy. Phil has to figure out how to channel Logan’s anger and hurt so he doesn’t turn down a wrong path. Logan and Phil are going to have to have a monumental moment where Logan just releases his emotions and Phil is going to have to love him enough to let him. Phil needs to apologize to his kids too…..he’s altered their lives as well.

          • Laura says:

            No one is going to let Logan go down the wrong path. Phil will have to do a bit of growing before he lets Logan ‘release his emotions’ (atleast at Phil) Just saying — he is your Phil so you should know that.

          • Tracie says:

            Yes he is my Phil….I just hate it’s such a struggle for them both.

        • janet says:

          oh right. I forgot your favorite chapter when he does say that. One of my favorite scene is Phil and Logan having the conversation about the upcoming baby and Kim. That was a great conversation and gave me insight to Phil.

          • Tracie says:

            Phil also told Logan in that conversation that he would not lose him. I wonder if Katie is helping Logan with his emotions in SN? Matt could also help he grew up without a dad.

  6. Tracie says:

    My daughter said today she was getting her haircut and the girls at the shop said they will be reading Laura’s books, if I’m blogging about it…those girls know I don’t do any type of social media…we are seriously like the beauty shop in Steel Magnolias….

    • Laura says:

      I loved that movie!
      A sequel is supposed to be a stand-alone novel. I hate sequels that recap original books — it’s boring reading paragraphs of back story. I read that the best ones present the old information in a new way giving the characters even more depth. It’s an interesting challenge

    • Janet says:

      So fun Tracie!! Steel magnolias is my top 10 movie along with Pretry in Pink as you already know! You will get the whole town involved. I can totally see it. I hope so. The world would be a better place if everyone read romance novels. The good kind! Lol. Tracie you can order everything online. No use me telling you to try if you can’t get it.

      • Tracie says:

        You know Janet if I can order those apples I’m going too. Half of my beauty shop is older ladies and the other half young girls. The girl that cuts my hair is in her twenties and one of the older ones in her late 50’s wanted to cut my hair….I told her Hell No…you use curlers and Dippity Do for styling gel. Not happening!

        • Laura says:

          LOL I can picture that perfectly!

        • janet says:

          you make me laugh. Dippity Do!! Your salon really is Steel Magnolias. Order the apple. The minis are not as good so get the big ones. They are expensive but it should last you a few hours/days depending. Triple chocolate is my favorite. I swear I didn’t realize I was a sugar junkie until I joined this blog. Half the time I’m chomping on one candy or another as I’m reading/commenting.

  7. Tracie says:

    That just hurts me about that little dog. Poor Chandler too..those incisions itch while they heal and stitches pull. Well I’ll be setting most of the weekend, bored out of mind. But I’ll be on call for you girls if you need to discuss anything Lol. Just blog me up…

    • Janet says:

      I think we are almost at 1000 comments already. Oh we will always discuss! My sister said today she has never seen me on my phone so much and I let her read my goodnight moon scene. She made an O face and said who is the author? Lol. She loved it. I think the last romance she read was your favorite Judith Mcnaughts almost heaven in HS.

      • Laura says:

        I love that book! What is the Goodnight moon scene? I can’t go back through all these message trying to remember

        • janet says:

          Phil telling Kim off is my bedtime story. Haha. I remember reading Alison G Bailey’s Perfect series long ago and the same story was told twice from both MC’s perspective. I thought she did it so well because it was as if I was reading two different books. Reading how and what Phil thinks and seeing things through his eyes will be gold.

  8. Tracie says:

    Oh I know it will be Lol….we started on this second blog with 7 comments…..I don’t know where we are now but last time I looked it was like 923. You will have to throw us morsels when you are writing your new books….since we haven’t met the characters, except for Nick, Janet and I will probably spin more fun scenarios….Lol

  9. Tracie says:

    Laura here is just a little tidbit you may think oh my….but it will take me and Janet several hundred comments to come of the high of SN. We can’t just read it and not talk about it….Lol

  10. Tracie says:

    Luck and unfold scene magic to you sister….Sounds perfect….

  11. Laura says:

    Update — 2/3 done and I know how Swimming Naked ends!
    I am going back to the beginning of the book now. The first scene is about seven months after the last novel ends. After that scene I will say Seven Months Earlier… and start Swimming Naked 🙂 I will begin right where A White Picket Fence ends (with Lina telling Phil she wants him to come home). I want to see the early transition with Lina, Phil and the kids — skipping that is too easy and not nearly as satisfying to me or you guys. Wish me luck 🙂

    • Janet says:

      Holy moly!!!! You know the ending!! I won’t be mad if Kim wears orange behind metal bars with a butch haircut and sallow complexion Laura. Can’t wait. Have you written the running group mystery yet? Will you write an epilogue?

      • Tracie says:

        Butch haircut that cracked me up J-Girl!

        • Janet says:

          Bahaha. I like thinking of extreme endings for Kim. As much as I want Laura to finish SN, I want her to keep writing. You know what I mean Tracie. I heard Carian Cole’s new book is close to 600 pages. Don’t think I ever read a romance novel that long.

          • Laura says:

            Wow! That’s long. My editor said every scene should have a purpose, otherwise it goes. The one thing that really bothers me in a novel and because of that I’ll never do is repeat something — for instance you’re reading a book and something happens, then the character tells another character what happened — hello? I just read that so I don’t want to hear about it again — it happens a lot! I shouldn’t have told you guys, now you’ll notice. Also characters should never say hello and goodbye — just wasted dialogue. Anyway, my pet peeves.
            I know I’ll be sad when this novel ends. You girls won’t be bonded to the characters in my next novel so it won’t be the same type of discussion 🙁

          • Tracie says:

            I know Janet, their story is going to be amazing. I really can’t imagine the ending right now. Liam loves his mommy so is it going to be extreme where Kim is so selfish she leaves Liam with Phil and Lina, or gets a terminal illness and for once in her life thinks unselfishly. After two years and no Phil, may be falls for another man and they both live their lives sharing custody. Two many options! Ugh. Can’t wait for my steamy scene though after Lina ask Phil to come home Lol!

          • Tracie says:

            Laura we may not be as bonded, but we are opinionated Lol…you are our favorite author and now our friend so we will take an interest in all you choose to post and discuss with us….

      • Laura says:

        I’ll probably write an epilogue — I like when other novels have them.

        Remind of the scenes you want again? Running group, steamboat, any others?

        • Tracie says:

          After the baseball game!

        • Tracie says:

          Laura will the epilogue be an extended one? I see those sometimes and if done correctly are great. We started a WPF with Megan’s graduation, extended Epilogue could be Liam’s graduation, Phil offering Lina his handkerchief because he brought an extra. The Hunter kids there with their kids…….just awwww…my romantic side again….

          • janet says:

            Yes I love epilogues too. And yes what the heck was Kim texting at the baseball game other than you are a daddy because Phil was texting for a long time until he put the phone down. And if Phil was seeing Kim mon- fri why ditch Megan for her on Saturdays as well? This scene is where I got confused and thought maybe he was infatuated with Kim because Emily believed they were a couple by how they were acting. I’m getting worked up thinking of these scenes again. Lord!!

          • Laura says:

            He was escaping, remember?

          • Tracie says:

            Come back toward the light Janet, remember we can only read those scenes once LOL. Phil is being redeemed as we speak. Did you see the scene Laura just finished, Phil and Lina in the car. I wonder if he took Liam home and Lim was telling him don’t bring her to my house! I can’t wait to read SN!

          • Janet says:

            Right. I can’t revisit those scenes. I was just thinking of the scenes where I wanted Phil’s POV. Are we missing anything?
            So Lina and Phil are in the car and Kim is on speaker?Are they arguing about Liam or Lina? Oh remember how we thought Kim may stage a run in with Phil at the courthouse? Maybe Kim’s pulling another wedge trick? Who knows with this woman?

          • Tracie says:

            What if she saw Phil’s car and his windows are blacked out and Kim walked up with a sexy swagger and when Phil rolls down the window there sets Lina…Lol

          • Laura says:

            That’s pretty close!

          • Tracie says:

            Oh myyyyy. I can’t wait….Will that scene be in Lina or Phil’s POV?

          • Laura says:

            It’s in Phil’s.

          • Tracie says:

            Oh good I was hoping it was Phil’s.

          • Laura says:

            I’m really enjoying writing these early scenes. Especially the ones from Phil’s POV

          • Tracie says:

            I can’t wait to read them. I thought of a question….after the game when Phil and Lina were talking and she said “with Kim”. He knew right then she knew where he was going didn’t he? I can’t imagine his thoughts in that moment, torn between leaving his wife hurting and having to drive to his downfall. Laura what were his thought on that drive to Kim’s?

          • Laura says:

            As hypocritical as it was considering he was Catholic I think he was trying to figure out how to get Kim not to have the baby. That’s where his focus was — he didn’t want to lose his family

          • janet says:

            Music to my ears! I would think writing from a guys perspective would be so much harder. I can’t wait!!

          • Tracie says:

            I’ve always tried to look at people as just human.. I know I’m not perfect and nor is anyone else..Have you thought about what the cover is going to look like?.

          • Laura says:

            I’ll see what my cover person comes up with. I find that I do better when I just let her show me what she thinks

          • Janet says:

            I want to be THE fly on that wall. Phil talking to deaf ears. I highly doubt Kim kept Liam because she’s catholic. Do you think Phil knew this about her when she used her religion as her reason for keeping Liam? Also, will we see that clawed neck scene when Phil breaks up with Kim or was that in the old version. I can’t remember now.
            Any plans for another long weekend guys?

          • Laura says:

            The clawed neck scene was in the first book but I said I would write it after finishing Swimming Naked. I think I will include the baby conversation in the new book as the prologue.

            I plan to write all weekend and watch Chandler so he doesn’t mess with his incision.

            So the little dog is better – minus the eye and several teeth that somehow got damaged during the two second attack. Crazy – one bite carried a big punch

          • Tracie says:

            I have to work Monday so no long weekend. Why are your kids out of school on Monday?

        • Janet says:

          Interesting about hello and goodbye being wasted dialogue. I never knew that! Also I just started a new book and so far half of the book is copy and paste on past scenes. I think this is one of many I won’t finish. I told you guys I’m not active on social media. I’m sure as long as your blog remains open Tracie and I will have things to say about every one of your characters. The football player Lucas sounds like he could be a cousin of Phil’s. LOL. Going back to this duet, Kim is such a huge part of this book. As much as we hate her we need her. In real life I want her to find peace and happiness. I really do. But in Swimming Naked I prefer her not to have this. I still binge watch Law & Order. It always makes me feel good that justice is served in an hour. Haha

        • Tracie says:

          I wondered how you did that….I have loved all the covers for your books. They all tie into the story…not just a random guy or girl on the cover….

          • Laura says:

            She’s really good. I don’t like seeing the hero or heroine because then I can’t get the image out of my head

          • janet says:

            Ugh I am so old for that random guy and girl cover. Also it’s embarrsssing if someone gets hold of my kindle and sees all those sexy covers. Heck I have to hide it from my family. Laura would say noooooo if they put a random guy in a suit and it’s Phil. Imagine!
            Can I ask if the big dogs owner was at the park?
            Living here Rosh Hashanah might as well be a national holiday.
            So my daughter got her braces off and she can eat caramel apples again which is the first thing she asked for. You guys please try one from Mrs Prindables if you can. This is my dinner dessert and midnight snack tonight.

          • Laura says:

            Our schools are closed Monday also. Congratulations to your daughter! I haven’t had a caramel apple since I was a kid. Your diet sounds similar to mine (a little healthier with the apple). My sister is telling everyone that my diet is 50 percent sugar — it actually has been lately — I think it’s the writing — brain food LOL
            the big dog was a pitbull mix as it turns out and yes the owner was there — she felt horrible and offered to pay what turned out to be over $5K in vet bills.

          • Tracie says:

            You girls have so many options where to eat and gourmet Caramel apples Lol….I live in a town of 18,000 and the only Caramel apples I can get are the ones I make… talking craft caramels and some gala apples. Lol

  12. Tracie says:

    I’m excited about the snowstorm. You know I can’t help it, so I’m just going to ask should my emotion be angst through the storm? Lol.

  13. Tracie says:

    Phil is going to have to reach a point where he understands that her independence doesn’t replace her need for Phil, he’s her happy. Lina said that in my favorite chapter, she told Adele..pretty much… I have my career and independence, but I’m not happy.

    • Laura says:

      Exactly right

      • Tracie says:

        How are the dogs today?

        • Laura says:

          The little dog had his eye removed but is home recovering (thank goodness). And Chandler is sleeping thanks to the Benadryl recommendation!

          • Janet says:

            Sorry I didn’t check till now. I had a bad day but too long to get into. Main problem being my dads life insurance policy is terminated. Ugh. Now have to involve an attorney to get it reinstated. Anyway I didn’t know the little labradoodle would have his eye taken out. Poor thing!! I thought lose meant blind. Ugh.
            LOL about Chandler. He is getting a good nights sleep!!
            I liked Tracies chapter 10 comment. I was so mad at Phil thinking bringing home
            BBQ will make things better. I remember that exchange word for word I swear.

        • Laura says:

          How are you doing. The crutches must be getting old

          • Tracie says:

            I’m so glad the little dog is doing good. I’m glad the Benadryl worked for Chandler. Sadie would be a nervous wreck if she didn’t get one during a storm. I’m doing good. My leg isn’t hurting at all, I feel like I could walk just fine. I’m not doing it though, trying to be good and wouldn’t want the inflammation to return.

          • Laura says:

            Very smart! I’ve finally reached the snowstorm – it will probably have to wait until tomorrow

  14. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls, My SN thought today is about Phil and Lina’s growing pains. Laura is Nick the only reason Phil feels a little fearful about losing Lina in SN? I would think Phil may be a little fearful of any man getting to close to Lina. Phil never saw Nick coming and I wonder if he isn’t going to be a little hypersensitive to any man working with or around Lina.

    • Laura says:

      Good question and I’m not sure if I have a proper answer. I think Phil’s issues center on control- when linas our in the world without him he has no control over the what’s happening

      • Tracie says:

        Laura I remember in Chapter 10, wherePhil told Lina to let him make it better and she said you are the one that hurt me and the only one that could hurt me this bad. Does his control stem from the hurt she endured during WPF? He didn’t protect her from the text messages or pictures. Nick supported her emotionally when she needed him. I think his need to control her well-being is at the forefront of everything he does.

        • Laura says:

          I think he’s used to taking care of her and he likes to know he can. As she becomes more independent she doesn’t need him as much. I think that’s a hard adjustment for Phil

  15. Tracie says:

    I know Laura..she scared me for a minute, I thought I missed a new WARNING morsel…..Lol

  16. Tracie says:

    I think of missing something what 3rd party?

    • Janet says:

      Oh I mean a third party. Nanny, Adele, Kim’s sister. Makes sense Phil wouldn’t allow Kim at the house.

      • Tracie says:

        I scrolled back through our comments and thought I missed a comment that would put this puzzle together. I don’t think Phil ever allowed Kim at their home. We no she was MA Bell with all the telephone calls.

  17. Tracie says:

    Girls, I just got to thinking, if Logan would throw Kim’s name out in an argument, why wouldn’t he say (because it would be innocent on his part), I wish you were more like Brian’s dad! Wow that would be a blow to poor Phil.

    • Janet says:

      Maybe he did say that Tracie. He is not happy with his dad right now so he could have said it in their past argument in front of Nicks house. Also, Phil barred Wolf from knocking on their door. He or the 3rd party must be doing the pick up drop offs. This means Kim is not happy.

  18. Tracie says:

    I can only imagine the swirl of emotions that Nick incites in Phil. The knowledge that another man would take Lina given the chance. The fact he didn’t notice another man falling in love with his wife. I always go back to my favorite Chapter 47 and remember in the picture scene where Lina notices the women looking at Phil, she never noticed before because he was hers, but that wasn’t the case anymore. It is like they both took each other for granted and quit paying attention long enough for others to infiltrate their domestic bubble. Phil took himself physically away with Kim, and Lina was emotionally drawn to Nick. The more we talk it out the more you can see the perfect storm brewing……

    • Janet says:

      Right Tracie. They did take each other for granted but after 25 yrs…. Laura is Logan throwing Kim’s name around when they have aruguments?

      • Laura says:

        yes, he has.

        • Tracie says:

          Oh my…Logan is using the big guns throwing out Kim. Logan is at that age he has raging hormones, he is hurt by Phil actions and jealous of Liam. Logan is sensitive and sensitive people tend to let things build, until they just can’t contain it anymore and then they break. Laura let Logan just spill fourth, punch a wall a few times and then fall to his knees in tears…he’ll feel better….Phil got to punch a wall….

          • Janet says:

            I think Logan wants to punch Phil instead. Ugh. I get it. I think he was traumatized by the betrayal and then finding out about steamboat. Like you said hormones and anger, confusion, and most of all his love and loyalty to Lina. Also I think Logan is young and sees most things black and white so he is quick to judge on Phil’s actions. Poor Logan and Phil. I love the unexpected scenes so much Laura. That tells me this book will long. Lol

          • Tracie says:

            Laura is Phil somewhat in tune with Logan’s emotions and anger or is Phil just mad at Logan for his behavior?

            Janet I hit the wrong reply and my answer to the 25 year question is at the bottom…

          • Laura says:

            Phil’s growing too, so I would say both

          • Tracie says:

            I bet it’s hard for Lina to watch Phil and Logan go through this war of the wills. It would be for me….

          • Laura says:

            it is. poor Lina

      • Tracie says:

        I can see it more after 25 years….being together that long they were comfortable..never SAW the Wolf knocking at the door…Lol The tension with Katie sealed the deal for Laura’s perfect storm in WPF. That is why I think they will be so much closer in Swimming Naked, because their second chance is life changing for them both.

  19. Janet says:

    Hi everyone. Is Nick dating someone new? I don’t think Dana was good enough for him. Haha. How is the snowstorm? Did anything bad happen Laura?

    • Laura says:

      Nick is single — I’m sure he’s dating. He was always dating. I’m still not at the snowstorm. Unexpected scene with Logan.
      The little dog is losing his eye — I just found out. I’m so sad 🙁

      • Tracie says:

        I’m so sorry for your friend’s dog, that’s terrible. How is Chandler today?

        Is the unexpected scene with Logan good or bad?

        • Laura says:

          Unfortunately crazy (that’s Chandler’s nickname) doesn’t realize he had surgery yesterday. How I’m going to keep him quiet for a week is beyond me.

          Not a great scene with Logan.

      • janet says:

        Crap! So sad for the little dog. I hope she:he is ok. Waaah

        • Tracie says:

          Hey Janet…you just got one more day and the kids will be in school….

          • janet says:

            Sorry. I just saw this. Thank the good Lord school starts Friday. Tomorrow is orientation and the kids are ready. I think all the schools are in session now. We always start and end late. Laura, I’m sorry for so many questions today but just thought about this. Has Logan mentioned at all about Kim’s looks or personality? I don’t think he will say anything(if complimentary) to Lina but maybe to Phil about her being pretty but that she reminds him of a snake or mouth off to Phil what he saw in that witch? You know what I mean.

          • Laura says:

            No Logan hasn’t met her yet

  20. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Laura, I just thought of something, when Phil met Dana did he wonder where Lina had met her? Phil looked over his shoulder and gave a tight grin to Dana. Did Phil think that maybe Lina was a little jealous because Dana was with Nick?

  21. Tracie says:

    Laura what is our emotional mood this week? Any big scenes?

    Janet when do your kids go back to school??? My grandson has been in school since August 9th…

    • Janet says:

      This Friday! My nephews started mid August like your grandson. Snowstorm and Kim. Doesn’t sound great but I’m sure Laura will add a valentine swoon scene for you. At this point I’m wondering how much can Phil take? Lina is being protected by Phil and maybe unaware of some of the things Kim is up to. Couple weeks ago I watched a 15 min YouTube on narcissist vs psychopath vs sociopath. It was interesting because I was thinking about Kim the whole time.

      • Laura says:

        LOL. If it makes you feel better – it’s a Kim, Lina and Phil scene and it happens pre snow storm

        • Tracie says:

          I’ve been waiting on a trio throw down scene. I hope Phil is being all touchy with Lina…or Lina could have the “You’re insignificant” attitude with Kim or Phil could go into Alpha protect mode……

      • Tracie says:

        Janet we don’t have time for swooning, if Kim is raising havoc and discontent during the snowstorm. Phil has got to nip Kim in the bud….that’s why I would want a legal agreement with set visitation. I understand that with a baby so young, there may be times where they have to change weekends, etc and have to have some limited conversation or possibly text each other. If Liam hit some developmental milestone, Kim could send Phil a video and him reply “Thank you” or “Cool”. Kim is the type where I would want to cover all bases and leave nothing to chance…. Laura said full disclosure in SN. Phil wouldn’t tell Lina verbatim about there conversations, she wouldn’t want to hear them anyway.

        • janet says:

          Who are you? No time for swooning scenes?! LOL. I feel like the visitation rights are already in place but that doesn’t mean she’s not causing trouble. So far I’m guessing Phil and Kim both share legal and physical custody. Laura are the fights due to Liam’s custody? I didn’t think of this.

          • Tracie says:

            I’m all about the swoon…but my Phil has got to keep Wolf Girl from knocking on the door…..before he can roast chestnuts by the fire with Lina…I’m just saying…

          • janet says:

            LOL! Wolf knocking on the door. You are so funny. Ok, I want chestnuts so bad now. Also, your southern manners came out. Phil would never say thank you to Kim. Even I would just make sure the texts says read and leave it at that. Phil probably doesn’t even do that and have Kim sending him repeated videos and that makes her more crazy.

          • Laura says:

            Janet is definitely right on this one!

          • Tracie says:

            Okay no thank you’s! Videos would only be of Liam. My daughter sends me videos of my grandson all the time, which made me think of that situation.
            I tell you what girls I have to schedule a haircut or people are going to start thinking I’m an Alpaca! This hip thing has me all thrown off! Lol

  22. Tracie says:

    Up to 12 weeks…determining on the blood flow being reestablished to the bone. They are going to check me at 6 weeks. If the blood flow doesn’t return and the bone continues to die, then a hip replacement will be needed.

    • Laura says:

      Oh my! I had not idea how serious it was. So all you can do is wait and see?

      • Tracie says:

        Yes…wait is all I can do. But I’m not going to let this hitch in my giddy-up stop me from moving forward…it’s just slowing me down is all….

    • Janet says:

      Oh no!! I just got on and read. Are you in pain Tracie? Couple months ago you commented that you had a crazy day but didn’t say anything else. I thought it was regarding work and would share if you wanted. Maybe that’s when you fell. Ughhh! Horrible!! My mom broke both of her femur couple years ago while hiking in Oregon. My sister and I had to go up there and fly her down 5 days later and it was a nightmare bringing her back. Since then I’m obsessed about taking my glucosamine, vitamin D etc. I hope you will be OK. I Just got rid of 3 kids who had a sleepover. School needs to start already. It’s been a long summer for everyone. Laura, sorry for your other baby going through his own trauma but if it’s 100 outside it’s probabaly good for his paws to stay indoors. Was the unexpected scene with Kim? Lol

      • Laura says:

        Both her femurs! How far did she fall? That’s awful.
        Yes, an unexpected scene with Kim!

        • Janet says:

          Oooh Kim! My moms fine now. She walks a bit like Humpty Dumpty but she’s fine. She didn’t fall far. Just slipped and fell but she had weak bones. Took fosamax for osteoporosis longer than she should have. Today is a bit gloomy here. 70 and cloudy. I got a pumpkin scone from Starbucks just now. Fall is upon us Ladies!

          • Tracie says:

            I know and I love it…a girl in my office cooks like you can’t believe. This morning she brought in a pumpkin spice cake with cream cheese frosting……YUM-A

      • Tracie says:

        Bless your mom’s heart….at least I’m mobile….

      • Tracie says:

        Janet I’m not in any pain now…Before the MRI and crutches, I was eating ibuprofen like they were Tic-Tacs just to walk. Now there is no pain..because I’m not putting any weight on it.

  23. Tracie says:

    It’s raining here today. I did make it up the handicap ramp at the office prior to the downpour, thank goodness..Lol The office crew is having a good time with my hip misfortune. One individual wanted me to lay down in the floor so they could draw a chalk line around me, one came up with a fitted should harness that had two metal rods extending from my shoulders to hang bags on to improve my mobility and the list goes on and on……I’m so proud of them LOL…I foster this environment!!!!!

  24. Tracie says:

    Are we still in a snowstorm?

    • Laura says:

      two scenes came up before the snowstorm so we aren’t there yet. should be later today. Hot here — heat index above 100 so I’m looking forward to writing about a blizzard haha

  25. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls…..I’ve been thinking about Kim this weekend…I know we didn’t have all the facts on the babysitting conversation; however, shouldn’t Phil know that if she can hide her true colors from him (prior to shredding his neck), that she could also fake humility????? Laura it was like you said in your comment about to much communication with the Hunters, Phil has only one family and she’s not included, nor should even be considered. It would be different if Kim had shown some humility from the very beginning, instead of rubbing salt in Lina’s wounds. Hope everyone had a good Labor Day Weekend……

    • Laura says:

      Good morning! Missed you guys yesterday. Kim has shown no humility thus far and I’m guessing she never will. I was referring to something else. Lol

      • Tracie says:

        Missed you girls too….I figured Janet was getting her cook on and you were working your way through your family carbfest….Me on the other hand, probably look like a version of Chandler that hasn’t been to the dog park in several days. These crutches are really trying to cool my jets. I see 100 things I could/should be doing and can’t. Ugh!!!!!

  26. Tracie says:

    Laura fair or not it was still fun to discuss with you girls….and your answer about Lina saying nooooo makes me feel better. Do you have any big scenes this week?

  27. Laura says:

    My babysitting questions wasn’t fair because you guys don’t have all the facts and I can’t share them with you because I don’t want to give too much away.

  28. Tracie says:

    I really like the fact that Katie is all about Liam, that way Phil and Lina have a babysitter when they have social events or even date night when Liam’s with them. Now I just need sweet Logan to bond with Liam…..

  29. Tracie says:

    Would Kim try to befriend Katie to get information on Lina and Phil? Plus, why would Phil set one of his kids up to possibly be emotionally hurt to ensure another one only stayed with family? Why not let Liam just stay extra time at Phil and Lina’s when Kim needed to go out for the evening. Plus that’s good ammo if Phil ever needed to file for joint or full custody. Who watches Liam during the day when everyone is at work?

    • janet says:

      right. Good point on unknowingly setting Katie up. Lina won’t agree and Phil should know better. Kim doesn’t do anything with good intentions. If she’s asking for something from the Hunters we would have to examine every angle. I don’t believe these requests are innocent.

      • Tracie says:

        If she is a planner, plus a trained attorney…she could pull information from Katie. Also, if I were Katie that would put me way out of my comfort zone to be at my dads ex-lovers house.

  30. janet says:

    Just thought about Katie babysitting again. Her house is a minefield Laura. Katie shouldn’t go there. Even if Kim’s not there there can be stuff strategically placed for Katie to find or see. But maybe that’s the direction you want?

  31. Tracie says:

    Yes she is Janet….I had my war on last night when I went to sleep, thus the paratroopers. LOL

  32. Tracie says:

    Goodnight girls….I’m spinning down now Lol……

    • janet says:

      Good night! I read my version of Goodnight Moon again. Something’s wrong with me.

      • Tracie says:

        While you were saying Goodnight to your room Peter Cottontail….I was dreaming about paratroopers parachuting through my roof all night. I just knew I’d wake up in a spaghetti strainer this morning… Laura no more questions like that at bedtime..LOL….that’s at least an hour ponder question!

  33. Tracie says:

    Phil better not tell her yes without checking with Lina. I remember in Chapter 42 when he said no unilateral decisions, I’m still her father. Well Lina is her mother and if I were Lina Phil would think the hounds of Hell got a bite of his ass! I’m spun up!!! It depends though on how you’re turning SN??? Is Kim conceding somehow???

  34. Tracie says:

    If she could watch him at their house maybe….. but Lina wouldn’t want Katie at Kim’s house so No…..

    • Laura says:

      I think Lina would definitely say no, I’m just wondering if Phil would without Lina’s input. I don’t think he likes the idea of Liam with strangers over family

      • janet says:

        Oh shoot! Is Phil being a guy again? I was so wrong about the elf pj’s and now I can see phil saying yes at first and Lina tearing him one. Maybe they need to have a fight before he sees it linas way. I thought he would be afraid to send Katie to Kim’s…exposure to poison and all. Phil!!

        • Tracie says:

          Katie wouldn’t want to go to her house anyway, she is to loyal to Lina! I can see Liam staying with Katie at their house, Phil can do taxi duty.

          • Tracie says:

            Plus Phil would love having Liam with his family and if Phil and Lina had a date or engagement Katie has babysitting duty. Phil can ran him home early the next morning and get the witch out of bed…..

          • Laura says:

            I think they have to be careful not to become Kim’s babysitters — it would just give her an excuse to constantly be in contact with them.

          • Tracie says:

            I really like that answer Laura!

          • Veronica says:

            So agree Laura,
            It’s just another route of poison for Kim
            Otherwise!

  35. Laura says:

    Just got home from dinner. I am so tired. I get annoyed at picking crabs too, Tracie, but it’s a tradition here and I’m pretty quick.

    I have one for you girls:
    Katie loves being around Liam. That’s a fact. Kim asks Phil if Katie is available to babysit Liam occasionally on weekend nights when she’s going out. What will he say?

    • janet says:

      Ok thank God you shut our minds down on that one! No! Katie can babysit at home but is going no where near Kim’s house. He’s too protective of his brood to be relaxed about that. He doesn’t mind Kim going out. He loves that. Ok what?? She goes out?!
      Whos her temporary boy toy? Good night everyone. Im tired too and it’s not even 8pm. Thinking about Kim saps my energy. Ugh. I hope your friends dog is OK.

      • Laura says:

        LOL Kim saps my energy too. Megan’s back at college, thank goodness. She get’s on my nerves haha I wish I could really change her but baby steps is all she’s capable of. Good night

  36. Tracie says:

    Girls, do you think Kim will know or possibly use Lina’s trauma or Katie’s depression against the Hunter’s in SN? I think Laura will say I’m to far in the weeds again. Melbourne how awesome. I’ve read several soccer/footie romances! Janet your mafia tendencies are out tonight….bloodthirsty….LOL!

    • Janet says:

      No way she knows about Linas trauma. I can’t see that happening unless she overheard Phil talking to Lina. Phil would never reveal that info to an easy lay(LOL). Maybe a little about Katie’s depression but Katie’s strong now so how can she use that against Phil. You gave Kim the middle finger via Katie and that’s her to a tee. I think her best weapon is Liam or some other evidence she kept or even hiring a thug to harm her? Laura would say no that Kim is methodical and a planner but if she is obsessed with Phil nothing is off the table. What do you guys think??

  37. Liana says:

    to all… just want to say happy celebrating… whatever the celebration.. and for speedy recovery for those not well..

    sorry I’m in Melbourne (though originally from Indonesia).. so forgive the lack of knowledge on holidays in the States… totally different celebrations here hahaha

    we have holidays to celebrate footie finals and horse racing cup.. would you believe..

    • Janet says:

      Hi Liana! How awesome about living in Melbourne! And reading that Phil/Kim warning was a moment of triumph for me too. Ok you made me choke on the killing Kim with kindness comment though. No no no! You give her a mm and she will take a million mile. Laura said writing Ned scenes and getting even are her favorite scenes to write. I want that instead. Let’s come up with another ending. Preferably let’s just leave it at killing…. I’m bloodthirsty for justice and in novels they are achievable.

      • Janet says:

        Oh also I think she is obsessed with Phil and now it’s about winning. She can’t lose to a nobody like Lina. I’m sure when Phil said that she was nothing to him it must have hurt her but not enough to give up or forgive him. She still believes they are meant to be together if not for Lina. She will hit harder next time to get back at them.

        • Tracie says:

          That’s what worries me hitting harder….that trauma makes Lina lockup… Lawyers do research a lot…all she would have to do is go to the library and do a little research with Lina’s maiden name. She could get that by looking up Phil and Lina’s wedding announcement. When Laura reads this she will say noooooooo!

        • Tracie says:

          What do you think Kim’s rationale was for Phil not divorcing Lina or him coming to her after Liam was born and declaring his undying love during the six months they were separated? She has had to of had lovers…someone has to feed her ego?

          • Janet says:

            I think she thought give him time and he will come around. How can he not when she is his prize? And Liam looks just like Phil and she gifted him with a son. The sex is the best she’s ever had. Just on and on. She’s prettier younger smarter. her her her. All about her and given enough time Phil will see all that. Ugh. So gross

          • Laura says:

            Yep. That’s definitely Kim.

  38. Tracie says:

    You two girls have an awesome weekend…since I’ve been restricted I will probably leave you party girls a meaaage or two this weekend. Laura are we going to have an emotional week? You know carbs really stimulate the brain…can’t wait to see what unfolds for you…

    • janet says:

      I do remember you at Starbucks while the girls shopped. You must have good bone density not to have broken your hip after a fall like that. I will check for your posts. I always do! I’m jealous you get to be alone. And Laura I will take your advice and grill shrimp. We love Langoustine so I’ll get some tomorrow. God I miss MD blue crabs! I love those all you can eat places with malt vinegar! Lol. I don’t love lobster but love crab. They are underrated imo. Ok I will plan my bbq around the ice cream cake and maybe ge my sister to make crab
      Dip since you got me thinking about it.

      • Tracie says:

        We’ll know on the bone density in late September, they are doing a bone density scan. I’m planning on reading some, My husband will be home. I make him a nervous wreck on these crutches. His mantra the last few days has been “babe where’s the fire?” LOL I don’t mind seafood as long as I don’t have to work for it…meaning I want Shrimp Cocktail not a pan full of shrimp I have to peel. I want crab that I don’t have to work with pliers to get a bite… ?

        • janet says:

          LOL. Your husband is so funny! You must be a speed racer with those crutches. I would be the opposite and ask anyone and everyone to get me a glass of water even if its 10 ft away.

  39. Tracie says:

    Well girls my life happened again. About 2 months ago one of the kids tracked water from the pool through the garage (which is fine), unless I really have to pee…so I was speed walking to the house and I slipped in the water. That’s right…did an awesome spread eagle and landed flat on my arse. For the record, I don’t bend like that anymore. The past few weeks I have had trouble walking on that leg, more like dragged it. So I had an MRI and I cut off blood flow to my femoral head. So I’m on crutches for the next six weeks. That’s right…so no parties this weekend. My crew heads to the lake anyway and on crutches that would be a bummer!

  40. janet says:

    Agree to all. Kim is delusional. If that “talk” didn’t somehow diminish her I don’t know what will. Tracie why would Phil take an easy lay to his vacation home? Ugh here I go again. I think I may have the answer then something is switched up again. Anyway, yes to Labor Day. It’s my turn to bbq. Just watched Rachel Ray’s old episode on bbq so make something other than steak and hot dogs? Honestly I just want some ice cream cake and be done. Are you guys having a party?

    • Laura says:

      Grill shrimp. so easy and good. Also chicken kababs. We like to have crab feasts on Labor Day and Memorial Day in Maryland. Now that you’ve mentioned cake and icecream, I need some.

      I had an awful night, but things are back on track. I met a friend at the dog park last night and she has two dog — one is an adorable toy poodle. Another dog, there were only four dogs there, lunged at the poodle without warning and picked it up by it’s head. It was the most sureal moment I’ve ever experienced. I’m not sure what the dogs plan was but after we screamed and kicked the big dog it dropped the toy poodle. Unfortunatley it seriously injured it’s eye. They spent half the night at the emergency vet and I spent the entire night reliving those five seconds. I went and saw the poor guy today. He looks pitiful but I think the eye will heal — they’ll no for sure after the opthamologist Tuesday.

      • janet says:

        Omg omg. WTH about both of you!! What breed was that dog ? Shit that is so scary. Poor poor poodle! They are the cutest. And Tracie!! You took your granddaughter to school and you were dragging your feet? MRI?! I’m so sorry!!

        • Tracie says:

          I didn’t take her to school, but remember when I took them to the mall, I had to set by Starbucks because I could do the mall crawl! I still had fun though, because I had my girls company! I’ll be fine…good upper body workout with crutches Lol!

      • Tracie says:

        Was the large dog a shepherd? When we got our German Shepherd from our breeder she said that some breeds of large dogs. especially shepherds have a natural small prey drive, especially toward poodles. The breeder was worried because we had Duchess (our labradoodle). She never bothered her though. I hate that happened, I bet it was awful!

        • Laura says:

          I’m sorry Tracie– that’s awful.
          That’s interesting about shepherds. This was some type of mix–several different dogs. It could have killed in an instant if it chose too. It was so weird.

  41. Tracie says:

    You buzzed his head??? You could of had them dye it back to his original color LOL…. when Laura told us Kim saw Phil in NYC and was mesmerized, I knew she planned a Phil takeover. Kim doesn’t believe Lina is competition for her. Phil sleeping with Kim made her believe she had one upped Lina. Pregnancy would clinch the win for her….since she is to selfish to realize…Phil loves his wife. She doesn’t understand that type of loyalty because she has none. You got big plans for the Labor Day weekend?

    • Laura says:

      Oh no! Poor kid. Hair color rarely turns out the way you imagine when you’re young. ugh! Yes, Tracie is right about Kim.

    • Liana says:

      I’m LOLing now.. grey highlights eeeh.. I think its called silver fox.. look at the bright side! we’ll look up to date with our current hair hahaha…

  42. janet says:

    Hi Guys! I read the warning warning convo again twice just now. And you said that was just a small part of the conversation. Kill me now! Most women wouldn’t get out of bed for a week after that verbal attack! Holy moly. Tracie we will have to recalculate the steamboat(sorry Laura!) and the running group scenarios. I’m convinced now this is all on kim.
    The gray highlights was a disaster. I had the stylist buzz his hair after. My child looked sick. Not sick in a good way but ill sick. I had no idea it was a trend but it did not suit. Next!
    Have a great weekend Ladies!!

  43. Tracie says:

    Do you think she let him see her sweat? I wonder if she even flinched. I would of been looking for a white flag to wave!

    • Laura says:

      Phil has the ability to make her flinch. He’s probably the only one.

      • Tracie says:

        When Phil has these moments with Kim, is he able to turn off those emotions when he gets home to Lina? Since it’s full disclosure does he tell Lina about the discussions (obviously not verbatim) with Kim?

        • Laura says:

          Yes the contrast between his interactions with Kim and Lina are stunning. He definitely has the ability to turn it on and off. He tells Lina as much as he needs to. I don’t think she would want to hear some of the things he says. That’s why she walked away in WPF when she overheard his phone call. It was too much

          • Tracie says:

            Just more proof of their connection. Lina supports and loves Phil through all the crazy that’s Kim. Not listening for Lina is self preservation, just like she didn’t unblock Kim’s number. Kim would lie anyway and it would only cause problems between Phil and Lina.

  44. Tracie says:

    I literally look like a wide mouth Bass right now! Oh my gosh I love it… I’m laughing out loud…. You rock Phil..

    • Laura says:

      Phil has a very mean side. It’s hard to see sometimes but she pushed him and that was the result.

      • Tracie says:

        I think that side of Phil is the only side that Kim will understand. She thinks it was definitely her and that being the mother to his son has given her even more allure. Janet is going to kill me for this, but I can honestly feel a little bit for Kim, in this situation. Someone being that brutally honest with you, would make you do a little self examination. If I were her, I wouldn’t like the results. Now I’m wondering what will unfold for you. Will Kim lash out or will that little discussion start centering her on the realization the only relationship she’ll ever have with Phil is co-parent????? Whatever unfolds I know it will be amazing….thank you for sharing that snippet!

        • janet says:

          Being a true narcissist, I don’t know if she will get it. She’ll blame Lina somehow. I also know people like her. More than one personally. And they always put the blame on someone else. Maybe in the dark of the night alone in bed she may feel the bruntof Phil’s words. But if she’s not done causing trouble or isn’t giving up on Phil she’ll internalize those words differently. How I don’t know.

          • Laura says:

            She has a huge ego so no way will she believe him. You also only saw a small part of that conversation. Phil was pushed to that point.

    • Liana says:

      Tracie I absolutely agree! and the scary part is I think Kim knows that too..

      even if Phil and Lina live is strong… that does not deter her…. that’s the problem…

      I’m beginning to think the only way is killing her with kindness.. and maybe Liam would finally be the key to her backing away? I don’t know.. I’m still thinking about the possibilities..

      • Tracie says:

        Liana I don’t think there will be any kindness for Kim, especially from Phil or Lina. She also puts herself before Liam. But I can see her saying something to Phil about all he threw away for an easy lay…. Kim has a weakness all people do……

  45. Tracie says:

    I think you are right Janet. Kim likes to manipulate, she hits where she’ll get the most bang for her buck. The more emotional distress the better, especially where Lina is concerned. When Lina didn’t leave after the text messages and Phil threatened her with a restraining order, she knew she had a direct hit. But she had to raise the bet and sent the pictures. That’s why I made the comment about Liam, imagine how she’ll be able to manipulate a child. when she has the ability to lure a man like Phil and then manipulate his wife into a separation. Gives me the shivers! It’s like Phil and Lina have their very own Chuckie Doll!

    • janet says:

      ugh! I hate that you said she had the ability to lure a man like Phil. You don’t think any attractive/smart woman would have done the trick? You think it was Kim specifically? I mean Phil was with one woman since he was 16 and Lina was turning him away. I feel like he was ripe for an affair. Age, duration of the relationship, trouble at home. I mean humans are not monogamous by nature and his defenses were down. God I hate Chuckie! Which reminds me, Laura, I remember reading Jasinda Wilder’s Ever Trilogy and I hated it because the hero after cheating on the wife said the sex with OW was one of the most intense moments of his life. I think Ive read other books with the same reason when the man cheats. Did Phil feel this way with Kim?

      • Laura says:

        WARNING and I mean WARNING….
        (this is Phil talkling to Kim)

        He smiled slightly but his eyes remained cold. “You really think it was you don’t you. That I couldn’t resist you. The truth is you could have been anyone. You just happened to be the one there that night. And then I kept fucking you because it was easy. You were an easy fuck. And that’s all I see when I look at you—an easy fuck.”

        • janet says:

          Omgggggggggggggggggggg. Thank you so so much for this one. I will have a great weekend and restful sleep after this warning. Omg that was so awesome Laura. I think I needed this. Ok he meant every word right?! Let me read this over and over again. This is my swoon scene.

        • janet says:

          I am so so happy right now. I’m going to let my boy get his gray highlights. He’s been asking for the last 2 weeks. Just now I told him it’s your happy day let’s go to Sams before I change my mind. Lolol. He’s had blonde highlights for the summer and he’s the only one who likes it. Now he’ll look like a skunk for sure. I blame it on Japanese anime

        • Liana says:

          I’m trying to find an emoti that will express what I feel reading that but couldn’t haha… I’m like so so so so happy, relieved, excited all at once?! But here is a question.. from WPF I kind of feel that Kim and Phil have a very compatible degree of ruthlesness (is this even a word?) and self preservation … don’t get me wrong .. sometimes these are good traits (in their profession obviously).. and I get why Phil is so in love with Lina who is all feelings, emotions, affections.. Phil loves Lina because Lina makes Phil a better Phil.. I think Kim understands that… she knows she will not win through Phil.. he’s too much like her… hence the “Birthday debacle” in WPF… she’s trying to make Lina fall out of love with Phil.. not the other way around.. am I on the right track Laura?

          so Phil saying that to Kim would definitely hurt her.. she’s a very proud woman who thinks she’s all that.. but with her record so far she would just not care.. she wants (love?) Phil.. but she wants revenge too.. so if she’s miserable.. everyone else should also be miserable… so I was envisioning Kim would just answer: “and look at what you’ve thrown away for an easy fuck… (while cackling away..)” ugh.. this leaves me nauseated..

          Im still thinking what would be the best justice for her coz she would not just be hurt by the usual things.. she’s too psycho!

          • Tracie says:

            Hi Liana, You remember at the end of Chapter 10 where Lina had gone to the basement and crawled into bed with Phil? Phil said she came to him because she loved him. Lina said I don’t know how not to love you. Phil said it would be unnatural for them basically not to love each other. Phil knows how to love, someone other than himself. Kim puts herself first. Kim can try all she wants, Lina is not going anywhere. Phil will be her punishment. When Kim targets Lina, Phil will go after her and Hell will be with him!

      • Veronica says:

        Sorry just a side note I hated the ever trilogy, the second book made me feel ill.

  46. Tracie says:

    How did Kim get Lina’s phone number?? I’m sure there was a time when she watched Phil put his passcode into his phone. Kim was probably doing more than taking pictures of Phil when he was a sleep. I wonder if Phil ever asked Kim how she got Lina’s number? Sorry, back in those weeds again!

    • janet says:

      You know what I think Tracie. We discussed this before briefly. I think she has had his passcode. While Phil was snoring away she schemed away.

      • Laura says:

        noooo. There are so many ways she could have got it. Phil could have used his phone and then gone into the bathroom and she picked it up an lifted the number. There could be a directory at the office that has spouses contact info (they had that at my office). Anyway, it’s not relevant. It won’t come up again

        • janet says:

          ohhhhh. LOL. If you let me, Kim would have given birth to triplets and has the other two hidden away with the barman in NY.

        • Tracie says:

          Okay we are off the phone and we have an emergency contact listing like that in our office too! Janet and I always go cloak and dagger with Kim, it’s a weakness!

          • Laura says:

            Phil had a brief conversation with her today and he was vicious — I thought about posting it but it’s full of expletives

          • Tracie says:

            Ohhhhh….I so want too see it….you bait like I drag LOL. You know that killed me…..

  47. Tracie says:

    I wonder if Lina knew he did it??He might have done it, when he had his back to her deleting the text messages. I don’t think he’s scared of her, he doesn’t trust her especially when it comes to Lina. I’m still on the healthy and tan comment. I can’t imagine what is so much worse. This is going to be good…..

  48. Tracie says:

    I take it our emotion level during that scene was tense? You know I’m trying to drag information out of you…..I’m just going to start telling my intentions ……you have me pegged by the first question anyway!LOL

    • Laura says:

      probably but you’ll have to wait and see

    • janet says:

      Good morning and afternoon! I always appreciate your digging efforts and unless it compromises the scene Laura usually indulges us! Phil blocked linas phone?! Did not know that. That tells me kim probably tried to send more incriminating evidence of the affair. I wonder if Phil is scared of Kim. She must have some evil tricks up her sleeve to use at her convienience.

  49. Tracie says:

    Well I hate that you had to use that feature. Have you done any scenes between Lina and Kim yet?

  50. Tracie says:

    I sometimes think I get way too far in the weeds LOL!!! Blocked number I never even thought about that….

  51. Tracie says:

    Phil will never bite again no matter who it is, Lina is all he wants. I wonder if Phil thinks not only has he done an injustice to his family by his betrayal, but Liam too. The more Kim’s personality comes into full view, does he wonder if his son is going to have some of her selfish personality traits? Phil’s time and influence on Liam will be limited. I also wonder if his dad brought that to his attention in their scene together. Laura you told us that they had to get their home disconnected because of Kim calling and the only way for her to get a hold of Phil was his cell phone. Kim knows Lina’s cell number because of the text messages she sent, does she ever try to contact Lina or did Phil have her number changed?

  52. Tracie says:

    Something has to trigger a formal agreement once Kim finds out about Phil being back with Lina and Kim moving. Plus, if I was Lina I would want a formal visitation schedule.

    • janet says:

      I think she will definitely try but of course Phil won’t be tempted. That much I know. I’m really curious what kind of wedge tricks(I love this word now) she’s going to pull. Laura said so much worse. Omg!

  53. Tracie says:

    Did Phil tell Lina when he went to see Liam? Knowing he would be with Kim when he saw Liam (my opinion) because I don’t see her missing any opportunity to see Phil.

    • Laura says:

      Yes, full disclosure this time around.

      • Tracie says:

        Gives me anxiety….ugh!

      • Janet says:

        Me too anxiety. Ughh. I finished a harlan coben and then just bought a cheating theme book that Veronica read through goodreads. I wanted to read what was going through the husbands mind. So far he doesn’t know why he’s cheating and he does not love the OW. Ugh!

        • Tracie says:

          Janet what book are you reading?

          • janet says:

            It’s called tainted love. I think by Michelle Betham. If I’m wrong I’ll tell you when I get home. They’ve been married for 16 yrs and I think 39. Set in London but writing is kinda choppy. Did you read Not Quite A Husband by Dhery Thomas? It’s a historical but really good.

          • Tracie says:

            I heard my grandmother say one time that there was no love like a dead love. I never understood what that meant until I lived it. When you are hurt enough for that love to die, there is no explaining that pain! It’s just gone….

          • Veronica says:

            Janet what do you think? I don’t want to spoil anything incase anyone else reads it, but the book is just crazy. The characters are unbelievable,
            People falling in love at the drop of a hat and the husband and wife never really resolve or dicuss things properly.

        • Laura says:

          People hate that answer but sometimes it is the truth. Like when someone falls out of love. Everyone wants to know why — sometimes the person falling out of love doesn’t have the answer. Some people aren’t in touch with there own motivations. Just saying. My characters of course will figure out why

          • Tracie says:

            Yours will definitely figure it out….My Phil has remorse and deep love for his woman! I wish I knew if Kim tries to be a temptress in SN? I know you are going to say I have to wait….

  54. Tracie says:

    Also, wouldn’t Phil want to move back in the house and rebound with Lina and his kids before throwing Liam in the mix? I mean they have a lot to talk about and Phil has to get Lina and his 3 kids ready to accept Liam into the family unit. My thoughts only….

    Laura did Phil keep up his once a week visits with Liam, once him and Lina were back together until visitation was established?

    • Laura says:

      Several months go by before Phil introduces Liam to the family. During that time he sees Liam a couple of times a month. Kim allows Phil to see Liam whenever so formal visitation wasn’t a rush

    • janet says:

      Thanks Laura!
      Your thoughts are good enough for me Tracie.

  55. Tracie says:

    Hi Janet, I thought (my opinion only) when I read the Epilogue that maybe he wasn’t in their life yet. It’s that timeline thing for me again or the wedding wasn’t their weekend to have Liam. But by the time Kim finds out they are back together and a legal agreement between Kim and Phil is established on visitation is 3 months enough time for all that to evolve??

  56. janet says:

    Hi guys! In the epilogue at Alice’s wedding there is no mention of Liam. Has Liam met Lina during the past 3 months since they got together?

  57. Tracie says:

    I asked that question because in the Epilogue of AWPF when Phil asked Lina where she was….he sensed she had checked out….he’ll know the triggers for her…I’m anxious to see how he handles her in those moments.

  58. Tracie says:

    I’m glad she hasn’t had those emotions. My mama use to say, words are like a bullet, when they are fired there is no getting them back, so think before you speak. I got that right after she told me Temper shows ignorance! LOL.

    Does Phil sense or feel in Lina those times she is remembering the betrayal?

  59. Tracie says:

    Good Afternoon Girls, I was thinking about Lina and the various emotions she would be going through during SN! In the warning scene where Lina said “You have a baby with another woman, Phil.” I’m wondering if Lina ever feels like being a little bit spiteful. I considered that when Phil wasn’t happy about Lina going to NYC. Lina is getting some spunk, but is she throwing some spite too! That would be a natural emotion to me. Say he mentioned her not going to NYC, etc…If it made her mad, would she say “You had no problem missing me, during your four month sabbatical from our marriage.” I know Lina would probably regret those words as soon as they came out of her mouth. However, when you are hurt, your personality has a tendency to pull out emotions that are not a norm in your everyday life. I was just wondering if Lina had those emotions in SN.

    • Laura says:

      Good Afternoon!
      Not really. Lina isn’t really bitter. I mean obviously there are times when she remembers the betrayal but so far she hasn’t felt spiteful.

  60. Tracie says:

    Laura are we happy the rest of the week since Lina is home?

    • Laura says:

      Just finished a nice scene with Phil and Katie. As far as I know the next week is relatively quiet. Phil and Lina may experience a bit of growing pains

      • Tracie says:

        I can’t wait to read how all their relations have grown and developed since AWPF. I don’t mind Phil and Lina growing as long as they’re growing together and not a part! Thank you Laura for taking so much time to visit with us on this blog….I’ve really enjoyed you girls! I also really love steamy happy Phil Lol!

    • Laura says:

      And yes steamy happy to have her home

  61. Carrie says:

    Best line – “To keep the good girls away!!” LOL?

  62. Tracie says:

    Adele would probably bring down the workaholic LOL! They would be more of a match! If William is fun and younger why not Megan???

    • Laura says:

      WARNING
      “Good, you started without me,” William said, joining them. “Adele,” he began taking her hand, “it’s nice to see you again.” He lifted her hand to his mouth and brushed his lips over the back of it.
      “You seriously just kissed my hand?”
      “I did.” He kissed it again. “Twice.”
      Adele snatched her hand back. “Does your wife know that you kiss random women’s hands?”
      “You’re not a random woman and I’m not married.” He looked past her to the bartender and ordered a scotch.
      “You’re wearing a wedding band,” Adele said, looking pointedly at his hand.
      “You noticed that, did you?” He winked at Lina before returning his attention to Adele.
      “Why are you wearing it, if you’re not married?”
      “To keep the good girls away,” he said.
      “I knew you were an asshole,” Adele said, shaking her head. “I’m shocked I’m not attracted to you. You’re completely my type.”
      He threw back his head and laughed aloud. “I didn’t take you as a liar,” he said when he’d stopped laughing.
      “Have you always been so full of yourself?”
      “I have.”

      • Tracie says:

        Laura that was awesome…wedding ring keeps the good
        girls away love it…plus we just classified Kim again. I wonder if that comment hit home for Lina……

      • janet says:

        I laughed out loud! He’s definitely good for Adele. I can just see their banter. yeah Megan will probably fall for the debate captain since she will be the co lead. Or go completely against her type and fall for a tatted up drop out. LOL

    • Tracie says:

      Scrap this comment of mine….so wrong on William. Megan will probably get her boyfriend from a wax museum anyway! She’s got such a glowing personality and all…..

  63. Tracie says:

    Janet do you think Phil would immediately excuse himself to go to Damien and Lina’s table or would he finish eating and then go by Lina’s table on the way out to introduce himself? Either way Lina would be glad to see Phil and meet his lips for a sweet kiss!

    • janet says:

      I think he would immediately go to the table. He can’t help himself. His hands will be on her thigh or holding one hand the whole time. Lina has to eat and gesture with her right hand only. LOL

    • Tracie says:

      That’s what I though too! Phil would beeline to Lina before she could be seated….

  64. janet says:

    Hi Tracie! Just got home. That’s a good one. Phil’s whole body will stiffen then spring up as he reaches for Linas hand. He will be stuck to her throughout the meeting. Ha. Let’s have the brother join mid meeting saying this looks like the fun table. Poor Phil! I think the fun brother will be good for Adele don’t you think?
    Laura, are you done with Phil’s POV? Is Lina back home?

  65. Tracie says:

    I pushed post to soon….now what is Phil going to do?

  66. Tracie says:

    Hi Girls, I have a Fun Scenario: Diane and Lina are going to meet Wayne and Phil for lunch in Baltimore: however, Lina has to decline at the last minute because she has to meet with Damian for lunch before he leaves town for business. Diane goes on to Lunch and meets Wayne and Phil at the restaurant. The three set in a booth at the back of the restaurant, Diane and Wayne facing the hostess stand. Diane says “That’s one of the most gorgeous men I’ve ever seen.” Damian is looking down at his phone waiting on Lina to arrive at the restaurant. Wayne looks over to see Damian break out in a wide smile and comments to Diane “Well he appreciates the view by the front door as much as you appreciate your view.” A gasp comes out of Diane’s mouth and she says “Lina”….Phil says Lina??? Phil turns to look just as Damian greets Lina and then lowers his hand to her lower back to guide her toward the hostess leading them to a table across the restaurant from Phil.

  67. Tracie says:

    That’s what I love about your work…..it has to flow and can’t be forced……..You got the girls out for the weekend yet?? My son-in-law was over for dinner tonight talking about a new dog he wants for Dove hunting because they have a single short coat and can take the Okla heat. I said what kind of dog is it and he said a Viszla! I said I think that is what Laura has and he said she just got way cool! LOL. He has a black lab for duck hunting, but he doesn’t work him long in the heat.

    • janet says:

      Tracie! We would have never “met” if not for Laura’s blog. I mean we are obsessed with plant based burgers here(they sell out by lunchtime)and your son in law is looking into hunting dogs. I’ve watched a few episodes of duck dynasty and loved it but that’s as close as I got to hunters. Why doves though? They are so pretty! Can he shoot some crows? They’re so creepy. I saw 6 on my yard today

      • Tracie says:

        I have no idea, it is just a season here in Okla. I know he only eats the breast of the dove though and he hunts Teal too. I’ve watched him train Reed in our pond, it’s amazing how he takes hand signals and no words have to be spoken. I don’t think there is a crow season…LOL. I’m glad I did get to meet you girls…you’ve brought additional joy to this girl!

        • Janet says:

          Omg I don’t even know what teal is and I didn’t know you can eat doves! Fascinating!

          • Tracie says:

            I wouldn’t know a teal if it was setting on my clothes line. LOL. He’s from western Oklahoma and I guess they are plentiful there.

      • Laura says:

        LOL this actually made me LOL

    • Laura says:

      That’s awesome. A viszla is like a lab on steroids — and they love to hunt birds! My poor guy points at them all the time. We just stand there and I wait for him to stop so we can keep walking. He looks ridiculous doing that in my neighborhood

      • Tracie says:

        I got to hear the history tonight. He said they use to be used a lot in Okla when we had a Quail Season. Since they were ground birds they alerted their master by pointing so not to scatter the covey of quail.

        • Laura says:

          The breeder I bought him from had doazens of quail for training. My poor guy. I’ve never even held a gun. He’d be perfect too. He’s not afraid of fireworks or any loud sounds.

          • Tracie says:

            Well he’s about got my daughter talked into getting one….so I’m sure he’ll be getting one soon.

          • Tracie says:

            Chandler sounds like a sweetie!! Reed the lab is such a sweet dog too! He stays in the house and is great with my 2 year old grandson. Is Chandler good with kids?

          • Laura says:

            He’s great with kids. Very gentle. He is also a giant lap dog.

  68. Laura says:

    Okay girls — it turns out the Damian of Swimming Naked is not the Damian in A Sense of Belonging. I thought it would work but it didn’t. They are both developers but there was just no place for a billionaire in this novel. His personality was also a bit different.

    • janet says:

      OK Laura that’s why we love your books. We are always wrong! Can’t wait to meet Damian. But is he for Adele or Lina? LOL

      • Tracie says:

        I think Adele…..Lina already has smoking hot Phil….but we do have scenario material!

        • janet says:

          You are no fun today. Lol. Remember we want some young hottie lusting after Lina and have Phil snarl at him

          • Tracie says:

            Laura hasn’t described Damian so we get to use our imagination there too! Since he’s not a billionaire, what do you think about a bad boy type with jeans and tattoos? He can lust after Lina, as long as he doesn’t touch her! LOL. That would kill Phil for her to have to meet Damian for work dinners and yes he needs to be younger….He can pick her up in a classic sports car…..

          • Laura says:

            He’s another suit type. Serious. Workaholic etc. His brother is the fun one

          • Tracie says:

            When I say classic car, I’m talking like a 68 Camaro… either Black or gun metal gray…. Wowza!

      • Laura says:

        It’s hard to explain. The entire New York trip didn’t go down the way I expected. Baby steps for Lina as well as Phil. There is Damian and his younger brother William — they are both in it

  69. Tracie says:

    Laura where are we today?

    • Laura says:

      We are still in New York City. Just about to leave Lina’s POV and move to Phil’s. It’s a fun scene to write!

      • Tracie says:

        I’m sure it is…..I can’t wait for the coming home scene. I hope Liam is still there and he toddles to his Lina with a big smile and a slobber kiss. Can’t wait for Phil to snuggle his Lina too!

      • Tracie says:

        Is Phil starting to get anxious, wanting her home?

        • Laura says:

          not anxious. They’re on the phone. It’s Thursday night and they are both in bed. It’s sweet.

        • janet says:

          I think he sleeps well. Don’t know why I think that but other than the time Phil lived alone and when he had to tell Lina about the affair he always slept. Men have the ability to compartmentalize better I think. Remember when he fell asleep before Lina after Kim called the first night? If the role was reversed Lina she would have stayed up all night worrying.

          • Tracie says:

            He does sleep good after Lina gets to her hotel room, but I love that he can’t until she is in her room.. He slept good after that scene, because he was still under the impression he could control and dump Kim. Lol.

          • Laura says:

            He needs to know Lina’s safe. He won’t even attempt sleep until he knows she’s back in her room. But Janet is right — if he was upset about something, he’d still sleep.

          • Tracie says:

            Okay bubble poppers! LOL

  70. Tracie says:

    I was thinking of the role reversal and remembered when Lina said in Chapter 1 this is the first full night of sleep she had in 5 days. I wonder if Phil laying there watching the clock, restless, and tired from waiting on Lina to call and give the all clear, ups his guilt meter some, knowing that’s how she felt too when he was in NYC.

  71. Tracie says:

    LOL J-Girl…Laura hasn’t described Damie so we can’t compare him to my Alpha’s just yet. I’m hoping Damien is going to play a few games with Adele. But I do like Phil being possessive jealous and yes we can do scenarios! Loved the jacket maneuver too! That was awesome!

  72. janet says:

    This chapter is going to be the bomb. LOL. I’m positive Damien is as alpha as Phil(you guys are cursing me), loaded, and have charisma oozing out of his pores. Ok that wasn’t a good description but you understand. He goes through women like water and bam he sees Laura and his eyes widen and needs to button up his blazer. LOL. I think I like making Phil jealous as much as the confrontations between Phil and Kim. I hope he hates this guy as much as he does Nick. Love it. Tracie, so many scenarios we can mull over.

  73. Tracie says:

    I think it will be growing pains for everyone if Lina starts traveling. Logan will not like it one bit, nor will Katie. Megan could probably care less.

    • Laura says:

      I think when anyone changes within the family unit there is resistance. It’s natural.

      • Tracie says:

        It is….like when your routine was out of whack because of the dog park and the construction. When our families combined their was so many adjustments, because everyone’s routines had to be tweaked to accommodate the new family environment we were trying to create.

        • Laura says:

          So true. And you were so young! You must have been very mature for age.

          • Tracie says:

            I was 28 and my husband was 40. I don’t know about my maturity level. I do know, my mama always said “I raised you to have a strong mind and I expect you use it!”

          • Laura says:

            Wise mother. You’re like Casey and Tony…almost LOL

          • janet says:

            Yes!! like Casey and Tony! Also Laura, you should write a novel with an older woman/younger man. I used to love reading Anne Mathers on this subject. When it’s written right it’s so good right? Have you guys read Jane Harvey Barrick’s Education of Sebastian series? I think they are 13 years apart!

          • Tracie says:

            Thank you…almost instead of a brief case, he has a tool belt! Lol

  74. Tracie says:

    Or would Phil do like he did with Dana in Chapter 47 and finish for Lina … our son!

    • Laura says:

      and how many children will Lina say she has when people ask?

      • Tracie says:

        Okay for this to work, she is going to have to say 4! I want her to say 4! I want Phil to make it clear to Lina her roll is co-parenting with him, when they have Liam. You are my wife and his motherly influence when he is with us!

        • Tracie says:

          My gosh when I read something’s I type….role not roll. I wouldn’t mind a good cinnamon roll though! I just finished a roast beef sandwich. LOL

          • janet says:

            I say 4 too even though it probably hurts her heart still. When kims in jail and Liam calls Lina mommy then I will feel better. Yum roast beef. I like it with lots of horseradish where I have to breathe through my mouth

          • Laura says:

            LOL I love spicy food. And I hope it’s four too

          • Tracie says:

            LOL…you crack me up J-Girl! I’m boring I just used mustard.

          • Tracie says:

            The first time Lina says we have four children. I want my Alphas POV to be full blown cup over flow with the Love for Lina. Like busting heart love!! Then he tightens his hold on her like he can’t stand an inch of space between them! Wow…that kind of made me tired…LOL

        • Liana says:

          I think that will be the case… remember the last scene when it was flashback and Lina read Phil’s palm and told him he will have 4 kids in the end?

          I felt something bitter sweet right then… don’t know why… it’s like Lina will always be the first… even about the implications of Phil’s cheating… that’s like seriously major soulmate material.. LOL

          • Tracie says:

            Great point Liana, I forgot about that scene their palms were identical and Liam’s line wasn’t as deep as there 3 kids together but they both had the same palm print! I wonder if the line not being as deep signifies custody will stay the same or Lina wasn’t the mother, but will love Liam like she was?? Lina and Phil are definitely soulmates or she wouldn’t have taken him back!

  75. Tracie says:

    Laura, I just thought of something, how would Lina introduce Phil and Liam to someone from work, that didn’t know Phil. Let’s say Lina, Phil and Liam are in a restaurant eating, Damien comes in and says Hi Lina and hugs her, he then turns his attention to Phil and Lina says Damien this is my husband Phil and Liam. Would Lina address Liam as Phil’s son or our son?

  76. Tracie says:

    I can’t wait…..Does Phil know Damien is with them?

  77. janet says:

    Laura! Is Damien in this scene??

  78. Tracie says:

    LOL…you are exactly right…she could have her suitcase open on the bed and inside on full display is the familiar Tiffany Blue box…

  79. Tracie says:

    Who gave her the gold studs????

    • janet says:

      You are the one who put her in a private jet with personal escort. Phil gets a strip of made in China silk scrap and Lina gets handmade diamonds

  80. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls….Laura how does Lina’s family see Liam? I know her kids call Alice Grandma….Liam has Phil’s parents and Kim’s parents (assuming Kim has parents)…..I hope Lina’s family embraces him too, Lina’s family was the dominate presence in AWPF… I know when my mom and dad were alive, my family was definitely dominate LOL…

    • Laura says:

      Good Afternoon! Yes, Liam is immediately accepted by Lina’s family. They are probably the least judgmental family on earth.

      • janet says:

        Hi Laura, Is Phil calling Lina incessantly? The Player song is on a loop on my phone right now. “Baby come back, you can blame it all on me
        I was wrong, and I just can’t live without you” haha

      • Tracie says:

        That makes me Happy….Adele would be a hoot as an aunt….I would want to hang with her….

      • Tracie says:

        I wonder what Phil is going to do when Lina comes home….What if Lina just gives him a chaste kiss (like Phil in Chapter 1) walking through the bedroom butt naked after being gone for a week????

        • Tracie says:

          Laura…this is were you should throw out…Phil would Never let her get by with that….LOL

        • Janet says:

          How about with a pair or gold studs Phil never bought her on the nightstand? Lina didn’t want to take it but Adele made her. Phil makes her throw it away

          • janet says:

            Actually make it diamonds. From an admiring developer.

          • Tracie says:

            Okay…diamonds by a developer….The developer could afford those since he was hanging with Tony and Joseph. What if during girls night, Adele is posting on social media her and Lina at the Rumpus Room dancing to Milkshake…My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard…..Katie could keep the family updated…LOL

        • Laura says:

          LOL She would never do that!

  81. Tracie says:

    See Janet I go and get myself spun up over a fun scenario LOL!

  82. Tracie says:

    Here is another scenario what if she had thwarted some plans Lina and Phil had for the weekend. Claiming she was sick and needed him to take Liam for the weekend and when she opens the door looking healthy and tan! Oh that could so happen! I would like to squash her, especially if it was an anniversary weekend or something special for them both!

    • Laura says:

      So much worse than that…

    • janet says:

      Ooh I want to squash her too like all the silverfish I find at my house. The scenario so can happen but I remember what Laura said before how Phil now puts Lina first so I’m hoping he would tell Kim to hire a weekend nanny because he’s busy. If it’s some special weekend they have planned he should follow through. Kim cannot manipulate him anymore. I just love seeing her trying though. I just reread chapter 25. I don’t know why. I was reading a non romance book and thought I want to go back to the running group scene. I’m mad at him again.

    • Tracie says:

      If it was something with Logan, I will be furious…..then I’m with Janet on the Potomac solution!

      • janet says:

        So much worse! True!! She’s not going to waste her time thinking of ruining a weekend. She wants to ruin something biiiiggg. Like their marriage. I don’t think kim will focus on Logan. Think we discussed before she needs to take Lina out and everything else will follow. I think you are Laura are alike on that subject. Forget the Potomac river now. She needs to suffer. Let’s put her in jail for a long time. Ha

        • Tracie says:

          Janet kids are out of play, so Kim’s focus is just on Lina….Fun Scenario: The Board of Realtors is having their annual awards banquet in DC. Lina is being recognized for her interior design concepts and staging abilities throughout the tri-state area. Lina is excited this is her validation on her design abilities and happy to spend a night with Phil enjoying the moment. Since the realty company Lina works for is local, an article appears in the paper regarding Lina’s accomplishment, saying she’ll be honored at the banquet. Then bam Kim calls being sick and thwarts all plans and Phil misses Lina special moment, why Kim is laughing all the way to the beach!

          • janet says:

            good one Tracie. Phil is missing one of Lina’s defining moments. Not good. And she’s probably wearing another 3000 gown and is glowing from spa treatment and her inner pride. Let’s put her in a gold shimmering Versace gown. You know that Bruno Mars song “Versace on the floor”? Not for Lina and Phil. He’s in the dog house.

          • Tracie says:

            HAHAHA…I do know that song…and I love Bruno Mars…Versace with a pair of 4″ Jimmy Choos…that’s right!!!

  83. Tracie says:

    Ohhhhhh……That’s right….I love it…..Healthy and Tan…..I wonder if Rico was around to rub on suntan lotion????v

  84. Laura says:

    Warning…
    “There he is!” Kim, looking healthy and tan, greeted Liam with a smile. “How’s my favorite man?” Her eyes lifted to Phil’s.
    Phil returned her gaze with a cold stare.
    “Momma!” Liam smiled and then buried his face against Phil’s neck, suddenly shy.

    • janet says:

      I love love love it! Hate that she looks healthy and tan. Was hoping for a glow in the dark orange instead. But cold stare-Omg Phil. And Kim saying there’s my favorite man to Liam when she probably forgets to feed him at regular intervals. She will seethe that Phil no longer looks at her like before and go home and scheme. I hope so anyway. So good!!

  85. Tracie says:

    He could lose his temper with her, you told us he has seen his daddy at his worst a few times. But I don’t think he would want to confuse Liam either as he grows with a fake happy mommy and daddy type relationship. I would hope he would treat her cool (not frosty) but controlled. Absolutely no touching of any kind….just maybe handing Liam off.

    • janet says:

      Like you said before. Cold and controlled. Probably gives monosyllabic answers to her questions. Hopefully always a NO! with a scowl to his face. He can’t hide how he feels towards her. He saves that calm facade for court

  86. Tracie says:

    Phil can powder his own butt for the weekend, he’ll be fine LOL! I love that you have her in NY! If you had her gone for the week, I can see him getting frustrated. I wonder if Adele mentioned revenge sex to make him grit his teeth before they left…Lol. I love though that he misses Lina enough to make him act like a baby! Did you get the confrontation scene done between Kim and Phil?

    • Laura says:

      LOL it’s so easy to make a man act like a baby — I have so much material.
      Yes, I finished my scene with Kim and Phil yesterday. How do you think he interacts with her in front of Liam?

    • janet says:

      Omg powder his own butt! Totally. Has he ever cooked? Gone grocery shopping? He’s been taken care of his whole life. Even when he was living alone I think he did take outs every day.

  87. janet says:

    Hi dudettes! Ugh just got back from San Diego. Never made it to La Jolla Laura. Had to stay around Carlsbad for a tournament. Boring! Also I had one ear that kept plugging so I was out of sorts. I’ll be more with it tomorrow.
    Are you taking Lina to The City this week?

    • Laura says:

      And here I thought you were having fun! Was it a soccer tournament? Been there. Done that. LOL

      • janet says:

        No it was for fencing. He did soccer at age 4 and cried the whole season and never wanted to try again. In basketball he kept giving the ball to the other team. I couldn’t watch him without screaming. Again age 4. So I put him in individual sports and he seemed to like those way better. Has been fencing since 2nd grade and is pretty good now so I don’t mind watching him.
        Good to see Liana back. Love that she married her high school sweetheart!

        • Laura says:

          My daughter was the opposite. I really wanted her to play tennis and gave her all kinds of lesson early on, but she wanted a team sport.

          I love that Liana married her high school sweetheart too.

          • Liana says:

            Aaaw thanks guys… so glad to be back… currently reading through everything… I wish I can get notifications if there are comments in this thread.. Love all the possibilities of how the story might unfold.. and love Laura’s answes.. have a good one to all!

  88. Tracie says:

    Laura….hope you are having a good weekend! Where are we going this week? Janet must be really busy since we haven’t heard from her!

    • Laura says:

      Yes, Janet must be having fun in San Diego. Probably the last free weekend before school starts.

      Lina is finally in New York City. Phil is a baby — didn’t like that she was staying longer to have a girl’s weekend with Adele!

      • janet says:

        Ooh. Just saw this. Sounds so good! Love it so much that Phil is being a big baby. I hope he worries the whole time. Didn’t have much fun but tried a place called Phil’s bbq! LOL. I thought of you guys the whole time. It’s famous there. I don’t eat pork but my son loved it.

      • Tracie says:

        I love some good BBQ! I love Phil acting like a baby too! I wonder if it was a Liam weekend? Glad you made it back safe Janet! Did you win the tournament?

  89. Tracie says:

    Hi Girls….well it’s been an emotional weekend for me! Yesterday we had a family party for my granddaughters 19th Birthday and today she’s headed West to college. But I smiled the whole time and told her not to look any goofballs in the eyes LOL……..I was feeling a little bummed this morning and got to church and had the nursery. Sooooo I turned it into a dance party. Had a couple three year olds flicking the lights on and half I lined up the rest of my disco ducks and sang Staying Alive until I was hoarse! My John Travolta might be a little sore tomorrow! LOL.

    Hi Liana glad you are back girlfriend! My mama use to say some people are just mean (same as your bad)! Kim is superficial and jealous. In Chapter 15, where Phil says, if you love me, why are you destroying my life? I don’t think she gave him an answer! Kim doesn’t care about anyone but herself. You are exactly right she wants the image, she want Lina’s life, but Kim didn’t bank on Phil dropping her and not looking back (except for Liam). She’ll be toast when it is all said and done.

    • Laura says:

      Awe It’s so hard when they leave. You’re happy for them but at the same time so sad they are no longer close enough to see regularly. Nice you could cheer yourself up– it sounds adorable.

      Sometimes the only punishment for people like Kim is knowing that they are stuck with themselves.

    • Tracie says:

      My granddaughter just sent me a pic of herself setting on her dorm bed! Lol. It is sad that I want see her as
      much, but it makes me so happy to see her excited and flourishing in this new adventure!

  90. Liana says:

    Hi Girls! Miss all of you! Just finished reading everything and I just realized the discission moved here! so glad SN will be priority!

    about Phil and Lina which Janice mentioned… I’m hoping they will have a strong bond emotionally.. considering they know each other for a long time… my husband and I are actually highschool sweethearts and I can tell you we have this closeness because we saw each other grow up.. so its like we fell in love with all the good, bad childish, grown up, aspects. So looking at Phil and Lina, even with the betrayal, in my mind they love each other not just for the wonderful things… so I think Lina at the end (after getting pass the hurting and anger) would actually be the one that will understand most why Phil did what he did… and the statement like you said Janice about Phil not deserving Lina… I think Lina loves Phil anyway.. because she loves him even when he was a childish overbearing selfish teenage boy… and Phil being Phil.. he is selfish enough to hang on tight to Lina’s love even if he knows he doesn’t deserve her..

    about Kim… have you guys read indescretion by charles dubow? I hate hate hate that the mistress is the only one that gets to be all happy and peachy at the end… and she feels no remorse at all… so unfair…

    so for SN (knowing in my heart that Laura will deliver justice!) I know that Kim will get Karma (I think I’ve written this before LOL).. even if people say “don’t always blame the woman (feminism stuff)” but I say bad people are just bad… whatever their gender is… in the real world there are “other women” that are not at fault (didn’t know the man is married) but there are loads that are actually prowling to hook men with families just because they are usually at a point in their lives that they have gone through the struggle… and Kim sounds a lot like those kind of women… she wants the big hotshot senior partner lawyer not the low level juniors.. so when talking about love defined by Kim is love for the image and prestige… and ofcourse Phil’s attractiveness also adds to that hotshot image she wants … that’s why she didn’t target Wayne instead…

    • Laura says:

      Hi Liana!
      Yes I agree with everything you said. Phil says he doesn’t deserve Lina because he knows he betrayed her but he also believes she’s his so its a bit complicated. And as this novel unfolds, Lina is starting to understand what led to the affair. I haven’t read Indiscretion but I like to get even. My Ned scenes in When I Saw You were some of my favorites LOL

  91. Tracie says:

    Good Morning Girls, I was thinking about Phil deserving Lina. Remember at the end of Chapter 10, when he said I know I don’t deserve you. Lina told Adele I know he doesn’t deserve me, but why punish myself because I’m tired of pretending I don’t want him. Is that an emotional issue they are both still dealing with in SN? We know they love each other deeply, but them both thinking Phil doesn’t deserve Lina could be a potential stumbling block in their relationship.

  92. Tracie says:

    Not Kim getting stronger, but Lina getting stronger!

  93. Tracie says:

    It doesn’t cool down here until mid to late October. The deer hunters hate it to be hot during deer season. My son-on-law is a duck hunter and he hates hot weather in Oct since Duck Season start 1 Oct. I’m thinking with Laura saying Kim’s getting stronger, he may just be able to hold her hips, because I’m hoping Lina steps to Kim, to get her point across…my man type words…no slapping, etc I want to see Lina lay some Verbal Judo on Kim! Slice her like a paper cut!

  94. Tracie says:

    It so humid here, your clothes are soaking wet after about 30 min outside….it’s horrible!

    • janet says:

      That’s horrible Tracie. When does it get nice there? October? Ok maybe I exaggerated about Hawaii but definitely humid the last few years. Regarding Phil- I think he would put Lina behind him with his arm holding her back. Protective over Evil. And I can see him telling Kim not to address her or talk to Lina. If Lina tries to respond to Kim’s attacks he will tell Lina not to engage and hope he will attack evil by saying soemthimg like who do you think you are? You think you are something? Think again…. lol. I want him to go off on Kim because I never saw it in WPF.

  95. Tracie says:

    Not cooling off getting hotter! Our heat index over the next 6 to 10 days will be between 101 and 105! Awww…he might have picked up a sticker in his paw!

    • Laura says:

      I used to live Florida. I don’t miss the heat part of it. I can definitely feel fall in the air in Maryland. Limp disappeared during our walk lol. Just remembered I have to write a Kim Phil scene. My sister (who I read to now as I write it) reminded me lol hopefully it won’t be too long.

      • janet says:

        You know Kim Phil scenes are my favorite! I love Phil beating her up. I hope she carries emotional scars forever. Most likely she suffers for an hour though. How come theyre having so many confrontations lately? Your sister is so lucky! Lol

      • Tracie says:

        If there are scenes with Lina, Phil and Kim, how do you think Phil will anchor himself to Lina? Pulling her tightly to his side, putting her in front of him with his arms around her middle or putting her slightly behind one of his shoulders in a more protective mode! I can imagine all three, so I thought i’d ask LOL!

        • Laura says:

          I’m going with choice three, I think it would just be Phil’s natural instinct. The possessive hold is more for men

        • Tracie says:

          I know you girls are right, I just don’t want Kim to have the impression that Lina always needs to be protected. I loved it when Lina didn’t allow Phil to go to her after the slap scene. Really loved it when Lina said going to jail would be worth it! Love that fire in our girl!

    • janet says:

      Global warming! LA has been humid the last few years. I feel like we are in hawaii

  96. Tracie says:

    Okay Laura have a good evening….

    • Laura says:

      You too! Hopefully your weather has cooled off. My dog is limping. No idea why

      • Janet says:

        Hi guys! I just got on. Laura have a fabulous night! You deserve it after writing all the angsty scenes. Lina probably asserted her independence and Phil didn’t like it. OR, it had to do with the cold and controlled talk he had with the witch. Ugh. Can you just have her float away in the Potomac river and write a whodunit 5 yrs from now? By then her body will have been eaten alive.
        I’m on my way to San Diego. I will check on you guys tonight. Have a great weekend everyone.

      • Tracie says:

        Janet your talents could probably be used in the underworld!!!’ LOL. Float away in the Potomac..that tickled me!

      • Tracie says:

        Janet what if they started out in a sexy scene and Lina might have said something about his affair with Kim and they got into it!

  97. Tracie says:

    Phil is so out of sorts, he is having to chase rabbits in every direction just to keep his head above water. Between four kids, Lina and a crazy regret hanging over his head….he might voluntarily commit his self LOL! He is not going to like Lina going out of town…that will be another life of its own scene…..

    • Laura says:

      LOL I’m sure you are right. Okay I finished my scene so I think unless something comes up between now and tomorrow morning, my next scene should be New York!

  98. Tracie says:

    I do too, if you don’t leave them in a good place, you’ll think about it the entire time your out and won’t enjoy yourself! I think it will be good to give Lina a little space in NY. Can’t wait to see what emotional mood our Phil is going to be in when Lina tells him she’s going! Can you tell me who started the argument Phil or Lina?

    • Laura says:

      Lina kind of but then Phil lost his temper. The good news is that they talked through the issue and resolved it without one of them storming off.

  99. Tracie says:

    Good Afternoon Girls, checking in to see where we are today?? Laura hope your day got off to a better start…..

    • Laura says:

      Hi! My sexy scene turned out to be an argument scene 🙁
      I didn’t see it coming LOL Still haven’t made it to New York. Phil doesn’t even know she’s going yet. This novel has a life of it’s own. I have to go out tonight (that’s right, again) so I only have an hour of writing left. I hope I can leave them in a good place.

  100. Tracie says:

    Lina wouldn’t cheat and I don’t think Kim would be brave enough to have someone try
    and scare Lina or physically harm her in anyway.

  101. Tracie says:

    Great question Janet….she was pregnant that first year. So for the last year I would think she would have sex. She’s an attention monger and use to men falling at her feet, until she can get Phil to cave she probably did a few boy toys! I’m onboard for the take down plan…LOL

    • Janet says:

      Maybe she will make her lover cause some trouble for the couple.

    • janet says:

      Oh here’s my soap opera coming into play. Is the partner at Kim’s firm good looking? Tall dark and handsome like Phil and also married? the difference is he’s willing to leave his wife for Kim till he finds out he was just a poor substitute for phil..

      • Tracie says:

        I could see something like that happening. I wonder in a big town like Baltimore, her reputation would precede her. I wonder if Kim has been mesmerized by someone before Phil?

        • janet says:

          I don’t think so about being mesmerized before. I think for her Phil is it. And about Kim using someone to hurt lina I mean trying to hurt her emotionally and mess with her psyche. Since Lina is stronger in SN Kim needs to come at her stronger too? Ugh I don’t know Tracie.

          • Tracie says:

            Lina is getting stronger…Kim will give as good as she gets….but it’s two against one,
            Lina has Phil.

        • Tracie says:

          Janet I wonder if the sexy scene Laura is doing now, is Lina’s send off to NY.

  102. Laura says:

    I’m writing a scene right now that Tracie’s going to love. hint: only Phil and Lina are in it.

  103. Tracie says:

    Phil felt devastated by Lina in those Chapters because he thought Nick got a peek at Lina’s knickers. LOL. I don’t know, I guess right now cool and controlled. Phil has to get as calculating as Kim in my opinion. Remember in your favorite Chaprer 15 when he said I never said I was going to leave my wife, no I didn’t …..I wonder if Kim gives Phil those same type arguments in SN?? We have Liam, we could be a family, blah blah!!!

    • Janet says:

      You know what I just thought of? Is Kim having sex with anyone? It’s been 2 yrs since Phil ended the fling. What is she doing on the weekends she doesn’t have Liam? She doesn’t have many friends if at all and she’s used to make attention. Maybe the sister can tell Phil. They can work together to break her down.

  104. Tracie says:

    Kim is planning J-Girl…we Know in Chapter 29 and 30 how cold and brutal Phil can be. He loves Lina and was wow mad…. Kim is burnt toast, he’ll smoke her. I think Kim is so smart she’s stupid!

    • janet says:

      I love that. She’s so smart she’s stupid. LOL. So Phil was mad at Lina because he loves her so much. since he hates Kim so much how will he handle it? I don’t this his wrath is working.

  105. Laura says:

    After my rocky start, I had a very productive five hours. I’m VERY happy with my Logan/Phil scene. On to Kim after a quick dog walk!

    • Tracie says:

      Oh good you know I’m all about Logan and Phil finding their way back to happy. Any good parent would want their child happy and we know Phil is a good dad! Enjoy your walk….it’s too hot and humid here…it’s like 89 outside!

      • Tracie says:

        We have to play ball with Hope (German Shepherd) throughout the entire day. If we don’t exercise her, she has way too much energy and will nudge us with her nose until she drives us crazy!

    • janet says:

      5hrs!! Yeah! But omg another dog walk. I’m so lazy I couldn’t do that.
      Interesting about Kim not speaking up about Lina. She’s seething inside. Lol

  106. Laura says:

    In answer to Tracie’s question regarding the mood of the conversation he’s having with Kim after the sad event. Cold and controlled.

  107. Tracie says:

    I don’t think he accepted or rejected. I think the tie just was…..he wouldn’t have taken anything home she gave him. Kim might have even spilled something on his tie, just so he would have to wear it. I bet Kim even knew the tie was insignificant to Phil.

  108. Tracie says:

    Janet what if??? The tie was pink and they started the affair in February. What if (because I love Phil) Kim gave the tie to Phil around Valentine’s Day while at her apartment. Phil wouldn’t take it home, nor would he even make a big deal out of the tie. So when Phil stayed at her place one night to catch the 8:00 am to NY (we saw that in the text) he spilled coffee on his tie prior to their flight and he didn’t have a spare to match his suit! Kim did though, the pink one he had no desire for and it was still at her apartment 3 months later! Since it was on Monday, that he wore the tie, he forgot all about it by Friday when he got home to Lina! That could happen!

    • janet says:

      That’s perfectly reasonable just like his stained tie in NY. I’m just wondering how he would have handled it differently if it was blatantly given to him as a present. I feel like Kim gave him more than a tie in four months. How do you reject gifts from your lover? Ugh.

  109. Tracie says:

    OMG Janet I thought the same LOL! I also thought that she could be going to do some design work for a rich client. A private car could arrive at the Hunter’s home to pickup Lina and drive her to the airport. The driver comes to the door (Phil answers) and the driver introduces himself and tells him he’s there to pickup Ms. Hunter. Lina comes downs the stairs and introduces herself to the driver, which at the time tells her that her flight arrangements have changed and Mr. Suaveness has sent his corporate jet to fly her to NY, and that he would meet her plane upon arrival and escort her to her hotel! Wowza

    • janet says:

      LOL You are so funny. the billionaire escorts Lina to her hotel! Laura, I have a quick question thats hanging over my head. Don’t get annoyed. It’s that damn tie question again. I actually don’t put much importance on the tie but you said something that I keep thinking about. If Phil received the tie at the office from Kim, like she just left it at his desk with a note saying for your next court appearance-whatever-what would he have done with it if not bring it home? Just stick it under the desk? Give it to the secretary? Give it back to Kim? throw it away? You don’t think he’ll thinks its weird she’s giving him gifts?

  110. Tracie says:

    You are having a hard time with your friends lately and living in or by a construction area isn’t good either. Bless your heart! I think 3 hours in a dog park would be a little much for me too. I know our Phil is the dominate in the house, but I’m sure seeing Logan hurt or mad is upsetting to him. I’m hoping they are working through their problems and not fussing again. I wondered about our Phil too, climbing into bed on Lina’s first night in NY, looking at her empty side of the bed, wondering if Phil’s guilt meter ramps up little, thinking about Lina alone in their bed, while he was in NY with Kim. I hate that for him too! Ugh……I still hope Lina has some fun in NY!

    • Laura says:

      At least the weather was perfect — upper 60s and sunshine! All is good in my world again — writing.
      I guess you gathered that I can be a bit temperamental. When I’m writing, I tend to resent people (even friends and family) that try to take my time. And it’s been especially crazy lately. I know I’m being unreasonable but it doesn’t change the feelings. Whatever was going on across the street is done too. I listen to music when I write but I don’t like to hear anyone else’s noise. LOL

      • janet says:

        I’m like that when I’m reading! Lol. Totally different but boy none of your fans will be scheduling anything with anyone when SN comes out. Logan and Phil are having quite a few talks lately. Has Logan accepted Liam yet? Sequel? What is our home wrecker doing at this time? Plotting? Haha

        • Laura says:

          LOL Mums the word on Logan and Liam. Phil and Logan have a lot to work through. Phil and Kim will be talking later today.

          • Janet says:

            Omg omg. I can’t wait! Please have a looong talk and I wouldn’t mind having blood ooze out of Kim’s eyes after their conversation! Will check back later and leave you in peace.

          • Tracie says:

            Oh my, I’ll leave you be too.. just wondering If this is going to be a talk with Kim regarding the sad scene and her actions. I can hardly wait for SN!!!

          • Laura says:

            Yes, that’s exactly what they’ll be talking about.

          • Tracie says:

            Laura may be you can just tell us the mood of the conversation????

    • Laura says:

      Phil and Logan are having a more constructive conversation — when I was frustrated earlier I couldn’t write because when I feel like that the scene that unfolds will reflect my mood. Anyway, I sweat all the frustration out of my system and all is good.

      • Tracie says:

        I’m glad you girls are back to a good norm. I can be temperamental as well and I’m always on time too! I tell my crew time waits on no man…let’s roll! I think that’s why we jive so well together we are similar. I’m glad Phil and Logan are being more constructive, hope Lina is packing and The home wrecker is laying under a house that fell on her….LOl

    • janet says:

      Hi Tracie! I do hope he can feel first hand now what it feels like to be left at home while Lina is in the city that never sleeps. At least she’s sleeping alone! Ooh what if Nick is there for a medical conference at the same time as Lina?

  111. Tracie says:

    Good morning Girls, are we in NYC yet?

    • Laura says:

      Ugh. I’ve been taken completely out of my routine this morning. Early text from a friend who moved and is in the area for a few hours with his dog. Went to meet him but he got caught in traffic from DC so I ended up staying at the dog park waiting for him and then letting the dog play. Finally get home sit down and then all of this noise starts in front of my place. They are doing some type of something to the house across the street. I’ve been derailed. Now going to gym to reset my brain. I’m a creature of habit

      • Laura says:

        I was at the dog park for 3 hours! And all I could think was that Phil and Logan are in the middle of a conversation and I’ve left them stranded. New York should start later today

      • janet says:

        I hate waiting. Hate waiting in school line hate waiting to get a seat to eat and hate waiting at a meet place. Lol. Sorry Laura. You are a nice lady. Hope you have a great work out and take a break. I know a little about neighbors causing noise! This whole darn area is a construction site and the amount of debris and trash that blows to my yard makes me so mad! Maybe you can start nice and fresh for a few hours after dinner!

        • Laura says:

          I’m exactly the same. I don’t like waiting for anyone — hair cuts, doctors, tables. I’m also always on time. The construction in my neighborhood is finally ending — so happy. The good news is that my dog is exhausted so I should be able to write for several hours without him bothering me!

  112. Tracie says:

    or Kim could show up on the weekends, when Lina did go to church….ugh…I know Lina is not a victim in SN, so I’m trying not to get spun up…..geez….

  113. Tracie says:

    Laura…you are killing me….I know this is bothering my Phil really bad. Now lets talk about planning. If I were the evil witch, I would watch the church parking lot and when the “Temporarily” was over and Lina started going to church with the family (first time)…I’d make my move to humiliate my competition.

  114. Laura says:

    I really enjoyed the baptism discussions but I’m not letting the cat out of the bag on that one. As far as taking Liam to church, you’re both right…

    “And in the meantime you’re going to skip church on the weekends we have him? I don’t like the idea of that.”
    “Temporarily.” Lina stopped before him and replaced his hands with hers as she finished buttoning his shirt. “And if you really miss me, I’m sure Katie would sacrifice church in favor of watching Liam,” she teased.
    “That’s not happening.”

    • janet says:

      Good to see Linas in a good space and be able to tease Phil about it! Meanwhile I’m still stuck on the swoon glimpse you gave us where Phil asks if they are okay and Lina says she missed Phil. Where did Phil go and why did he ask if they are Ok? What happened before that Phil needs to ask Lina this?? Dah dah dah…..

    • Tracie says:

      Laura…Now who is trying to pry the answers out of you???? LOL I had to hang my pliers up after the Liam BD ordeal J-Girl…she won’t budge on the answers…

  115. Carrie says:

    Or Phil can have Liam baptized without Kim. Nothing says Kim has to be there.

  116. Tracie says:

    But if Lina did agree to go, that would be a perfect storm for Kim to humiliate Lina. Kim would be lying in wait, she would have planned and been ready to execute, banking on the Hunter’s routine of going to church.

    • Tracie says:

      Hi Carrie…Kim wouldn’t miss out on her child’s baptism!! That would be to big of an opportunity to hurt drive another nail through Lina’s heart. But I did ask my girl in the office, that was raised Catholic and she said the whole family can be up there if Phil so chooses.

  117. Tracie says:

    I always feel like I’m letting you down if I don’t get the right answer (which I usually don’t)….Phil says that he is not ashamed of his son, nor does he regret him….but then I think, he would want to give Lina and his kids time to adjust to having Liam with them, prior to a public appearance. You say that everyone is Catholic in that area and it is not like a small church….I’m putting myself in Lina’s place, and I would want a few visits to adjust to Liam being a part of our family, prior to rushing right out. I say no……

  118. Laura says:

    Good morning girls!
    Yes, the first few meetings are difficult — you’ll experience them with her.
    As far as Logan interacting with Liam — that you’ll have to wait for

    And here is your serious question for the day (and I’m not going to answer it but it is something that will be answered in the sequel) — will the Hunters immediately begin taking Liam to church with them?

    • Tracie says:

      I hope our Phil is over the top loving and supportive toward Lina during those first few visits……

    • Janet says:

      I don’t think so about church until Lina says yes. However when do the babies get baptized in the Catholic Church? Will Lina have to be there? The kids? This won’t give much time for Lina to get used to Liam. Damn that witch.

      • Tracie says:

        I forgot about Liam being baptized…Geez….my gut is in knots. Can Lina stand by Phil when he gets baptized??? Would Kim allow it???? Would Phil demand Lina be a part of the ceremony???

        • janet says:

          Does Lina get to stand next to Phil or does she have to stand behind Phil and Kim because she’s not a parent? Ugh!!

        • Tracie says:

          J-Girl, my girl here at work, says she can stand right next to him. Usually the godparents would stand next to the parents, but she said in this situation each of their individual families would probably stand next to them. Yes, girls we do discuss AWPF and SN here at work…LOL What’s really funny, we are assuming a baptism is going to be in SN. I waiting on Laura to say, Baptism???

          • janet says:

            I know! She gives a serious yet simple question and of course we have to twist it to another soap opera script. I wonder if you can bypass it and just do it as an adult. I’m a Christian and even though I was baptized as an infant I had to repeat the process as an adult. Not mandatory but many do this. Either way poor Lina.

  119. Tracie says:

    I wonder when Lina first meets Liam, if she tells Phil he is a beautiful baby, you and Kim should be proud or something similar to that comment??? I dread that moment for Lina, even though I know it has to happen. I can even feel that emotion in my chest now, just typing the comment….

    • janet says:

      Yes I can’t wait for that. Her heart will break and I will not be Phil’s fan in that chapter.

    • Tracie says:

      Phil’s heart will break for Lina, during those times. I will still be his fan…I just need him to wrap her up and love her through the hurt.

  120. Tracie says:

    OMG…That is a good one Janet…what would you do????…. My Phil would say: “The only mama I kiss is this one.” Then he would place a soft kiss to Lina’s lips, thawing the moment…..

  121. janet says:

    Hey guys! After the tile fiasco I went and got IPL on my face for sun spots. It was painful so of course I thought about Kim getting laser on her stretch marks. LOL. Tracie, I’m not good with scenarios and leave the sweet lovey ones to you. Instead, I thought of a confrontational one for today(typical)-takes place at a restaurant again.
    In WPF, we never got to see the Hunter’s family having a night out at a restaurant because Kim ruined the birthday dinner for the readers. So in this scene, the whole gang is out on a Thursday night without Liam. They are all having a good time with Katie hanging on to every word coming out of Matt’s mouth, Logan is discussing his schoolwork load with Phil, and Megan and Lina are talking about college boys. Then in walks Kim with Liam in her arms along with her sister. Phil who was playing with Lina’s fingers under the table grips her hand. Liam zeroes in on the family and yells Dada, dada. Everyone freezes except for Kim as she locks eyes with Phil and with a knowing smile puts Liam down. He immediately toddles over to Phil and asks to be lifted up giving his dad a big wet kiss while squeezing Phil’s cheeks. He’s kicking his chubba wabbas and looks over to Kim and screams Mama, Mama kiss Dada. Kim saunters over and says “of course baby. Mama always kisses Dada” while Lina looks on frozen and red faced. Everyone in the restaurant is now looking at their table. Phil’s thinking he’s too old for this shit. Lina’s thinking she’s too old for this drama. Kim’s thinking what a good boy, she came to the perfect place for a showdown.

    • Laura says:

      LOL Janet — but half of this scenario is very likely to occur in the sequel.

      • Janet says:

        Oh! Ok no more scenes for me. I was curious as how Phil and Lina would react to a scene like this so I’m happy we will get to see one. I thought of it after you told us Liam still loves mommy even if she doesn’t deserve it.

  122. Tracie says:

    Good night girls….so tired tonight! Maybe we can bounce back tomorrow LOL. If you decide to throw out another morsel in the future can it be happy Logan with Liam? Love to see them interact. Can’t wit to see what he calls his Logan!

    • janet says:

      me too. I want Liam to be Logan’s mini me. Can’t wait what he calls each of them especially Lina and what Kim thinks of the name.

  123. Tracie says:

    Just that little morsel lets me know Lina is taking care of Liam, since he already had a bottle and Phil was a sleep. I love it much!!!! Megan has no sympathy I saw that in the scene where she asked Lina to forgive Phil. Megan didn’t want to have to split her time while she was home on vacation. Not how are you doing mom? nothing….ugh….

  124. Tracie says:

    OMG….my heart just melted for my little Liam…..Lina is laughing too….I love it!!!!

  125. Tracie says:

    I knew you were going to say that LOL! I did read something tonight that reminded me of Phil and Lina. It went right along with what he said in Chapter 47 about her considering a flawed version of him, was better for her than a perfect version of anyone else. The passage was “There is no perfect person, just a perfect person for you!

  126. Tracie says:

    Sleeping without Lina….will Phil be fearful with her in New York?

    • Laura says:

      LOL our Phil doesn’t like Lina going away without him. That’s all you’ll get from me.

      • Tracie says:

        Janet maybe Lina’s going on a secret search for our mystery guy in the photo. Maybe she’ll book him Dano! Remember Hawaii Five O?? LOL. I have no idea where that came from….LOL. That means it’s time to go to bed girls!

        • Janet says:

          Yes! Tom selleck! He was way too hairy though. I swear you make me slap my knees. The best possible way though.

          • Tracie says:

            That will drive him nuts. Him over hearing a guy say you want to dance with me beautiful. Then he hollers to the bartender hey Charlie put her drinks on my tab!

    • janet says:

      This may be one of my favorite scenes Tracie. I so want Lina to gain her independence. She was attached at the hips to Phil since she was 15. She may like it so much she can do girl trips every couple months with friends or daughters. Phil can stay home and change diapers and soothe Liam’s colic! Poor Phil! Imagine him calling her at 11pm and Lina answers the phone with loud background noise and a guys voice coming through saying another cosmo?

      • Tracie says:

        I think Phil is secure in Lina’s love. But he couldn’t help but be a little fearful that she is going back to his betrayal ground. Bringing back memories for her. May be she’ll come home with Pink cheekies he finds her dirty clothes, while she’s in the shower LOL…you know Phil will be waiting to wrap her up the minute she gets home.

        • Janet says:

          He better attack her. LOL. Good point about him being little fearful. It’s what Laura said about growing pains for Phil and also knowing Lina knows where two of the pictures were taken. Or one. Don’t know about the dance pic. I hope to God not at steamboat. Sorry Laura to bring that up again. I hope you roar at Kim full force. I want to see blood feom this crazy woman.

      • Tracie says:

        Well this is the dependence Phil is having growing pains with..:.I bet she didn’t leave with out him before. Lina is beautiful and attracts very classy men. Phil knows the NYC type suits and depending on why she’s there, could draw some attention! So he is the one being left behind with the kids, this will give him a better appreciation for his LIna. Maybe it’s a new hot client that wants to wine and dine her???!

        • janet says:

          Perfect. Phil knows exactly who’s there. After all he fell in love with her at first sight. Business sharks are out and Lina possesses that illusive je ne sais quoi. Goodie. Good.

      • Tracie says:

        He’s not going to like anything about her going. Phil is the type to protect his family and he can’t protect her in NYC without him. But she will reassure him and go on anyway. She’s not going to do anything, he’s just nervous without her in his bed and his arms.

      • Tracie says:

        It will probably be one of my favorites too Janet….Adele could even send a picture to Katie’s cell phone, saying doesn’t your mom look hot!!!! Katie could say dad…you went to New York and came back with us a baby brother, may be mom will come back with a baby sister, then flashes the picture for Phil to see…LOL. Depending on where they are going, Lina could be dressed in a mid thigh cocktail dress (smoking) in stilettos or some really tight jeans, with over the knee high heel boots and a white silk button down shirt….total opposite of black…. tucked slightly in, so men have view of buttocks!!!!

        • janet says:

          Good morning! So funny! I like the subtlety of Adele sending it to Katie instead. She’s a sly one! We know Lina has the cutest tush right? Kinda like taller ballerina gracefulness. In all seriousness though, these pictures will hurt Phil. He completely trusts Lina and vice versa but just seeing a picture of his wife with another man giving her a smoldering look(maybe the same lustful one he once looked at Kim) will jolt him. Laura, does Phil ever have flashbacks of his time with Kim ever? Maybe not in a good way but does certain events, places, or things ever take him back to the 4 months? Again, if in the sequel, just say
          sequel.

          • Tracie says:

            Janet we know he has flashbacks of Liam’s birth, etc. I want to know about those dang pictures on Lina’s phone. Can you imagine him seeing those thinking Lina’s carried them there for so long, seeing through her eyes what she saw. Gives me the shivers….Maybe it will be Lina that says, it is time to get rid of these or maybe it will be Phil that finds them and deletes them….

            Laura what did Phil do with the pictures that Lina left balled up in his robe and the tacky BD card that Kim sent? I always wondered if he kept them in case he needed them for a restraining order, or just ensured they were out of the house.

          • Janet says:

            Yes to all. 1. does he have to take a moment to compose himself because of a certain jarring memory of Kim? In the sequel?
            2. Does he delete the pics or Lina ? Sequel?
            3. Where are those dang hateful 5 pieces of trash? Sequel?

            Have a great day all. I’ll be back and forth today. I’m getting new tiles

          • Laura says:

            I’m not sure about #1 but it hasn’t happened yet.
            #2 we shall see
            #3 those are long gone. He wouldn’t have kept them.

          • Laura says:

            New tiles? Kitchen, bath? Sounds exciting!

          • Tracie says:

            Laura I never asked this question either…What did Phil think when he saw the pictures??? Did he notice on the SB picture that Lina’s picture was on the night stand? Did he wonder what Lina thought when she saw the dancing picture?

          • Laura says:

            No, he just saw his life falling apart. He wouldn’t have studied them. He just felt fury at Kim and devastation — remember he thought Lina had just been with Nick.

          • Tracie says:

            Have a good day J-Girl…I’ll be back and forth this afternoon as well….

        • Laura says:

          nice one Tracie!

          • janet says:

            Lord. Home Depot sent me vinyl Carrera looking tiles. Not the travertine white one that I ordered. This is for the flip condo for the entryway. Ugh! I can’t do that. Even my contractor said reorder!
            Laura are you still writing our favorite scene to come? Lol

          • Laura says:

            So annoying! That type of thing always happens with home repair/remodel or whatever. I’m writing one nice scene after another today — currently with clueless Megan who seems to be missing the sympathy or empathy gene. Just when I think I might like her — wham, her personality comes out again. New York probably won’t start until tomorrow or Thursday.

          • Tracie says:

            Laura..I really am worried about our Phil this week. The picture thing with Katie was just for fun…How about a one liner on Phil’s feel this week…like Anxiously Awaiting Lina’s Return…Sleepless in Maryland….etc…

            Janet..I know the remodel deal is wearing on me too…my husband has the electrician in this week and I’m redoing an antique dresser with mirror to use as the vanity in the bathroom.

          • Laura says:

            The vanity sounds nice!

            Here is a morsel for you. WARNING –

            Phil slowly became conscious of a tap on his face. He swiped at it with his hand, coming into contact with something hard and plastic.
            A high pitched “Dada,” preceded a hard smack to the center of his face.
            “Oww,” he groaned, opening his eyes.
            “Don’t hurt Daddy,” Lina said, laughing softly. She took the bottle from Liam before he could strike again.
            “Dada!” Liam shrieked, a smile lighting his face when he realized his father was awake.

  127. Tracie says:

    Would it be a waste of my time to ask why?

  128. Tracie says:

    Good I can’t wait to see where we are going this week….

    • Laura says:

      It will be a good week. Lina’s going to New York City without Phil

      • Janet says:

        Oh I’m so excited for this chapter. I’m guessing she never went there without him? If Adele is going with her I hope she takes bunch of pictures of them at some hot spot club(they aren’t too old) and sends them to Phil. Is Lina thinking it all that it was Phil’s city with Kim?

        • Laura says:

          Wow. I forgot that was where Kim and Phil were together. Yikes. I’m sure she’ll think of that. Yes this will be a fun chapter to write

          • janet says:

            Omg how can you forget when it’s engraved in our heads? Tracies like nyc? Barman. I’m like nyc? Where they are in matching black tops. Yuck!!

          • Laura says:

            I may have forgotten but by the time I was in the scene I’m sure the memory would come roaring back. Should be even more interesting now

  129. Tracie says:

    Laura, has our next scene unfolded in your mind yet? What’s is emotional stability over the next few days? LOL

  130. Tracie says:

    Sometimes all the steam is awesome, that is physical need gone wild. The quiet moments (to me) have more impact (at times), because that is emotional need.

  131. Tracie says:

    Now I feel guilty about my for fun scenario’s that Janet likes so much….LOL

  132. Tracie says:

    Awww sister, I’m sorry you are so sad. But we knew their journey would be rough..since I don’t know the details of the scene, maybe it’s not the romance they need but the closeness. A lot of times couples will make love just to feel close, no button moment, just a quiet moment of coming together or her tucked into him while they spoon and just breathe each other, knowing no matter what they have each other.

  133. Laura says:

    I finished my sad scene, Tracie, but now I’m sad. It’s hard to write a romantic scene when you feel sad. Plus Phil is sad and Lina. I’m going to walk my dog. Hopefully we’ll all feel better when I get back LOL

  134. Tracie says:

    Janet I have a scenario: Lina is on her way home from yoga class, she’s stopped at a red light and is hit from behind by a distracted driver. Let’s say by a kid that dropped their phone on the floor and was reaching to find it. She’s hit hard enough that her head hits the steering wheel or drivers window. (Cut brow, mild concussion, nothing serious.). Police notify Phil that his wife has been in an accident and being transported to the hospital. Phil let’s say he is at Kim’s trying to defang the viper over another stunt she has planned and executed. When the ambulance arrives with Lina, Nick just happens to be in the ER waiting room with the family of one of his patients that has tried to hurt themselves. Nick realizes Lina is by herself and immediately excuses himself going to Lina. Phil arrives and finds Nick with Lina, his hand on her arm, smiling with her, while the doctor stitches the cut on her brow….talk about awkward LOL!

    • janet says:

      I likey!! oooh and Nick in his MD commanding mode is hot! Meanwhile Phil rushes in and comes to a sudden stop. “You! get your hands off my wife.”
      “Phil, I’m fine. It’s just a cut and Nick was here to help. Where have you been? I’ve been calling you for an hour now.”
      “Never mind that Lina. Drayton, I want you gone.”
      “Where Phil?”
      “Lina…”
      “Damn it Phil. Again? She calls and you ran to her again? Meanwhile I’ve been frantic that you may worry and have been calling you…”
      Nick still has his hand on her forearm squeezing tight while Phil shoots daggers at Nick.. btw, did Kim hire this kid to rear end Lina and timed it just so to get Phil to her house?

      • Laura says:

        OMG LOL Funny!!!

        • janet says:

          Laura, we only create these silly scenarios because they are so far off the mark. I know now Phil would never run to Kim and never ignore Lina’s calls. LOL I just love confrontations between Nick and Phil. Anytime I can get Nick to use his 5th degree black belt again. haha

          • Tracie says:

            That’s why they are “fun scenarios or snippets”. Gives Laura a little entertainment from her actual scene writing mind! Gives us a little entertainment while we wait for her to come out and play. LOL

          • Laura says:

            I know you do Janet and you want Nick to come out on top, right?

          • Tracie says:

            No she doesn’t, remember she already drank the cool-aid Laura! LOL

        • janet says:

          Well yes, if Phil is at Kim’s beck and call. But I saw his sweet vulnerable side in your “swoon” scene. “Are we ok?… I missed my husband last night… Yeah?” I really liked that part. Lol

      • Tracie says:

        So possible on the hiring initiative. Love the dialogue J-Girl. LOL. I was rolling…..

  135. Tracie says:

    When I was with the girls the other day, I told my daughter I see no swoon worthy men in this restaurant! She just laughed…..

  136. Carrie says:

    Absolutely Tracie! Some Smokin’ Hot Eye Candy for our favorite author!!

    • Laura says:

      I thought of this comment throughout my evening as I looked around at the offerings — I couldn’t wait to get home to Phil LOL

  137. Tracie says:

    Hi Carrie….how’s my Team Phil girl doing? I hope you are right about Laura thinking about romance at the party, because that means there is someone there hot enough to romance over! LOL

    • Laura says:

      Seriously?!? Starting a romance right now would be like cheating on Phil! It would completely derail the book. Believe nothings happening while I’m writing Swimming Naked

      • Tracie says:

        I know right….I still read my swoon scene twice a day… You may have to throw me another crumb. I have that scene memorized! LOL

  138. Carrie says:

    Laura I’m glad to hear you’re taking a break from the sad scene. Just think about the romantic scene while at the party!

  139. Tracie says:

    Laura…I think I’m going to nickname you My Little Social Butterfly….you always have a party…LOL. You said it would take two days to get through the scene. Well maybe we can move on to something steamy or happy next. Got my fingers crossed for you finishing this scene by 4.

    • Laura says:

      I lied. I’m not done but I have to go to the party — pressure! I need a break any way. This scene is soooo draining. There have been a lot of parties lately — much more than normal! Good book material LOL I’m always listening and watching. I’ll definitely end this scene with something romantic

      • Tracie says:

        Laura you are like me, I love to people watch and listen in social settings. LOL….I saw a woman in the mall wearing a rainbow piece of shag carpet. My first thought was obviously she didn’t have any mirrors in her house and second thought was how many Care Bears did she have to knock off to make the outfit. LOL
        I’m sorry the scene is so draining for you, but I do love the thought of ending it with romance…..

        • Laura says:

          LOL I can picture that perfectly. My favorite thing is watching the interaction of couples. I have lots of married friends. I get a kick out of the interplay, especially the ones I’ve known my whole life – I can see their parents coming out in them

  140. Tracie says:

    Laura I use to wonder if Phil would ever tell Kim in SN, that Lina was the only woman he would ever love and words similar to Chapter 44, when he told Lina he regretted how Liam was conceived etc. But he won’t will he? I remember you saying on a comment Phil tells Kim nothing! The comment was a reply to wondering if Phil gives anything away about his personal life. Just random thoughts today LOL! Did you finish the sad scene?

    • Laura says:

      I’m not sure if he’ll say those words specifically but he’ll say enough to satisfy everyone lol

    • Laura says:

      I’m in the middle of the sad scene — ugh. I’m supposed to go to a party at 4 p.m. That’s not going to happen unless I finish. I’m not going to feel this way one minute more than necessary.

    • janet says:

      Hey there Tracie. Long day for me. bought some kettle corn at the farmer’s market and thought of you. Ha! I don’t want Phil to say those words to Kim because it sounds like he’s justifying his love for Lina. Why does he have to explain anything to her? Just tell her she needs to find a good therapist and stop acting like a sane version of Jodi Arias! Okay that didn’t even make sense but you know what I mean.

      • Tracie says:

        We have farmers markets and I love them. You are right J-Girl, he doesn’t have to justify anything to Kim. I just want him to ensure Kim knows no love lost with her. Everything is about Lina.

      • Laura says:

        Kettle corn. I can’t keep that in the house. I’d at it in one day. Good point about Phil.

  141. Deb says:

    Hi ladies, hope you’re enjoying your northern hemisphere weekend 🙂
    Yes agreed that Phil and Lina are clearly meant to be together…I just think that Nick adds a great dynamic in making Phil vulnerable. He’s experiencing first hand the threat that another person can have on your relationship. I like the irony in that Phil’s had a purely physical, mid-life crisis fling with another woman which has resulted in a life changer, whereas his wife was close to having an actual romance with another man…
    So while I do sympathesise with Phil in some ways, I also feel he deserves it!!! He didn’t just have a one night stand, he actually made a conscious choice to continue seeing another woman for weeks behind his wife’s back!!! It appears he was arrogant enough to think he’d get away with it – if Kim hadn’t ended up pregnant would Lina have even known about her?? I’m looking forward to learning (and understanding) why Phil carried his affair on for so long…not to mention when the remorse actually set in…
    That scene with Nick and Phil’s confrontation leading to Phil injuring his hand – pure Nick hotness!!! Not only was he holding his own, he was also calling Phil out on his s**t!!! To me he’s the true hero and alpha of the story but that’s just me haha 🙂
    It seems like Phil is remorseful mostly because he got caught out…
    P.S. if Phil can wear his mistress’s stupid pink tie, he can damned well wear the elf PJs!!!!

    • Laura says:

      I don’t think Lina ever would have learned of the affair (not from Phil anyway) if it hadn’t been for the baby. And honestly I think she would want it that way. And you’re right Lina almost had a live affair with another man. As far as the pink tie – they don’t think Phil even noticed the color. A tie is different than a shirt and a whole other whelm from elf pjs – in his mind anyway

      • Veronica says:

        I get what you mean about Lina not wanting to know. But wouldn’t that make everything a lie? That’s such a big thing, and it makes me like Phil less for never telling her unless he had to. To be completely honest and build a better marriage. Just because, I know they don’t have to go couples counselling, but for the affair to happen their marriage must have been suffering in some way, and that needs to be worked on?

        • Tracie says:

          There marriage was suffering under the stress of everything they were going through with Katie. Laura had-explained in an earlier comment that Lina was always mad at Phil and had turned him away in bed (no excuse for an affair) but Phil was being selfish and he was being pursued. Phil wouldn’t have told, because why would he want to devastate Lina with the truth? Lina was in denial as well and didn’t want to shake her life up as she knew it or believe that Phil would betray her.

          • Carrie says:

            Exactly!! Well said!

          • Veronica says:

            I agree with why your dating, but always think things like that come back up further down the road, and it would always be like a dark cloak. And in fairness tbh the affair coming out caused trouble but actually have them a bit of a wake up call which they needed, so think it needed to come to light no matter
            What. I also think Lina needed to realise things were not perfect to make her more independent, it’s nice she relies on Phil but not to the point of being blind.
            I agree about causing unnecessary pain, but I think if the marriage should end there is a reason, and it is the betrayed spouses choice to have all the facts. I know some people would rather not know which I understand but to me that is not healthy as there is clearly something in your marriage that needs addressing, and knowing or not the cheating spouses guilt or lies will inevitably effect the marriage negatively anyway, and even if it is not confirmed the douses usually know something is wrong anyway. I agree with all your points, just in my eyes if someone can have a long affair and keep it a secret they are not worth having. I also have a problem with Phil’s affair as I feel it only ended because of the pregnancy. He claims Kim was only about sec and he felt so guilty, but how log would he have kept on seeing her otherwise?

          • Laura says:

            Phil’s affair ended in the first pages of the book, weeks before the pregnancy was revealed to him. Lina alluded to this in an early conversation to Nick. Her marriage was back on track or something like that

        • Carrie says:

          Many men (and women) have affairs in the real world and never tell their wives. The men truly regret what happened but feel there is no point to inflict pain on their wives especially if the affair ended. Many marriages have ended because of someone trying to be honest. I like Phil because he acts like a real man. Laura does an excellent job making Phil seem real to me.

        • Veronica says:

          Please excuse my awful spelling as well!

      • Deb says:

        Gosh you’re not helping me move into the Phil camp lol!! But I know I will get there…
        Have you ever read “The Break” by Marian Keyes?? Kinda similar with the theme of infidelity and a marriage in crisis…well worth a read if you haven’t already…after you’ve finished writing this awesome book of course!!
        Keep up the great work 🙂

        • Deb says:

          Whoops I thought this was replying directly to Laura’s post…
          But for everyone else MK’s book is very good!!

        • Laura says:

          No I haven’t heard of it but I’ll check it out. Also I believe if Nick ever cheated he would come clean to his wife. Different personalities. But again I have discussed these issue with many women and men and most women I’ve talked to didn’t want to know. And I’m taking about real life scenarios where affairs happened. And I’m not talking about weak women either. Personally I would want to know. The more honest you are with your partner the deeper your connection. I think the affair will ultimately bring Phil and Lina closer

    • Tracie says:

      Good morning Deb, I have to agree with most of what you said, and you were spot on. However I think you’ve learned my little trick on riling Janet up…LOL. Nick and Alpha not happening then you twisted the knife when you added hero LOL! But you have to remember, Phil shut the affair down before Lina learned about the baby. Lina wouldn’t of confronted him on the text message. She didn’t even want the whole story when Phil, tried to tell her about it. Just me, but I believe his remorse started the minute she looked into his eyes in Chapter 1 and told him she loved him and took his doubts away. Nick does add dynamic, it was a smarting up slap for Phil. Phil sees just how special his wife is through another mans eyes. Phil is not only vulnerable, but fearful. Phil is getting what he deserves most definitely, but what makes him redeemable is the fact he’s man enough to take Lina’s broken heart and do whatever it takes to piece it back together.

      • Tracie says:

        Deb one more comment about the tie, it was so insignificant to him and pretty much a throw away item, that he didn’t think twice about wrapping it around the hanger with his dirty clothes. It was just another tie! Plus there wasn’t a picture of him in the Pink tie. The elf pjs was a photo opportunity, that he didn’t want to remember LOL!

      • Deb says:

        Yep agree with your comments Tracie,
        I just a different take on some things 🙂 Maybe we’re more unforgiving downunder LOL 🙂

        • Veronica says:

          I have to say I agree about the tie, I know everyone says it had no meaning. But in my head if it meant nothing either don’t accept it or bin it. He actually bothered to take it him and place it in their bedroom, it may mean nothing to Phil but if you are a betrayed wife it still means something. I just think Phil is a smart man, and as a smart man y don’t take home mistresses gifts. If he got him no gifts apparently why accept them? He has no problem being blunt when he wants l. Also if he found a nice pair of gloves from another man to Lina I’m sure he wouldn’t be flippant about it.

          • Laura says:

            Missed this question before. So Kim gave Phil the tie while they were on a business trip. She gave him a new tie he wore it and didn’t give it another thought. I think it would have been something different if she gave it to him in a box at his office, then I would agree with you — he wouldn’t just bring it home.

    • janet says:

      Hi Debs. Just read the posts. Phil is one big knucklehead! However, I disagree about Phil making a conscious choice about the affair. I don’t think he thought this through at all.

      • Deb says:

        Hi Janet, perhaps, but there must have been some thought going into it..risk v benefits…despite the difficulties in his marriage he’s a man still in love with his wife and fully intending to stay with her…he had to be thinking of all the possible scenarios…he’s a lawyer after all…
        But yes – he is a knucklehead!

        • Veronica says:

          I agree, he might have been in a bad headspace but he made months of mistakes, he must have been thinking and rational at some point. You starting an affair for months with someone and carrtong on for months is a choice. I know he loves Lina but it was not a one time drubken mistake or like he was forced. He made choices Evertime he texted Kim or went to meet her. I honestly think Phil loves Lina and he deserves redemption but don’t think he deserves too much leniency. He betrayed his family massively, and to be honest with another child with a bitch of a mistress, Lina would be beyond justified to divorce him (as you can tell she is much more forgiving than I am). However, I am glad she is not and I cannot wait to see them reconcile and grow together!

        • Laura says:

          No he never thought it would come out and from the discussions I’ve had with men that have cheated that is a prevalent belief. I believe women think about repercussions much more than men – in the relationship realm anyway

  142. Tracie says:

    I knew he would have to put himself on the sidelines once he started getting Liam and trying to get his and Lina’s life back in some kind of order. Another redeeming quality for my Phil….

  143. Tracie says:

    Well I know when he was upset after the wedding and Lina’s family was at the house, he had to go running to relieve stress. I also know exercise was probably a big part of his life during the separation or so Lina led us to believe in one paragraph. I would say he still exercises but not like he did, because he has responsibilities have changed and plus running around the neighborhood could run him into Kim.

    • Laura says:

      You’re right. He needs to exercise but doesn’t have the time to train for a triathlon

      • janet says:

        That training took hours and I don’t want him anywhere that running group. He should just run with Megan and she can be his bodyguard.

        • Tracie says:

          I know right….I wonder if Kim will run by their house in sports bras and running shorts? Picture this J-Girl, Phil is out mowing, Lina is working in the flowerbeds and here comes Psychotic Barbie running by pushing one of those running strollers. Making several laps…about lap two I would turn the water hose on her if it wouldn’t hurt Liam!

          • janet says:

            This Barbie is too much! Phil will scream at her not to come around ever again. Liam will start crying and Lina has to take him inside. Phil can rip into Kim while she says something vile like that’s not what you said last time in your other home. The Nextdoor neighbor saw and heard the whole exchange.

          • Tracie says:

            LOL you remind me of a caged animal going after a raw piece of meat!! That’s what I wish Phil would say to Kim, you were nothing but a piece of meat! Slam bam boom ?

          • janet says:

            yes. I want him to say that too. so badly. I wanna know this. Laura, you told us he didn’t notice her until he noticed her. I think I know when that happens but when was he first introduced to Kim? Did she introduce herself the day she was mesmerized by him in court? Did he know her when the firm hired her? Diane said she pursued Phil relentlessly. Will Phil mention any of this in his POV? If not can you tell us?

          • Laura says:

            It’s covered in the sequel.

          • Laura says:

            LOL their driveway is long and their house too far from the road for anyone to notice her

          • Tracie says:

            That’s takes a lot off my mind knowing Kim can’t been seen running by their house.

        • Tracie says:

          Remember he cycled too! Lina thought he was cycling that time Nick was in the driveway talking to her.

          Laura did Kim cycle with Phil too?

          • janet says:

            Omg no! Are you riling me up Tracie?! Ok I must have missed the whole section where he cycles because I don’t remember that at all. This is in ch25 when nick comes with Emily?

          • Laura says:

            No it’s another time when he’s dropping Brian off not the Emily time

          • Tracie says:

            Yes, Lina thought Phil was out cycling. But he came up behind her….

  144. Tracie says:

    You know she does….not only against Phil, but as a weapon to hurt Lina if the opportunity presents itself.

    Laura is Phil able to keep up his triathlon training in SN? I also wonder if all his personal life stress is showing in the office?

  145. Tracie says:

    Janet I wish we had a snippet for the sad scene. Ive been trying to imagine all day what the witch could of done to make them both sad. I imagine them being kept a part, when Liam was suppose to be with him. Like one of the other kids BD’s or family event that Kim agreed Liam could go to outside the regular visitation, then Kim jerked the rug out from under them at the last minute!

  146. Tracie says:

    I bet Phil looks back on those 4 months now with such disgust in himself that he almost chokes on the regret (except for Liam). He has turned his life into utter chaos with no end in sight! My Alpha is out of control and needs it back!

    • Janet says:

      I wonder how he sees Kim physically every time she stands in front of him now. He must just see a big giant sea snake face. I hope she repulses him!

      • Tracie says:

        Pretty is as Pretty does…..so your right…..about the giant she snake. You remember that old movie about the Venus flytrap plant that kept saying Feed me…..that’s what she reminds me of too….Phil fed that trap and look what he got him. Yep he’s disgusted by her!

  147. Tracie says:

    You know what Alice says to do for grumpy Phil? Steam it up Lina! When I typed that, I felt like singing “Who Let the Dogs Out”! LOL

    • Janet says:

      I knew you were going to say that!! I was counting on it. You are such a hot tamale. Lol. Yes I think it’s needed here. Only Linas loving can calm him down. Tomorrow he may bump into the witch at court so he can’t be high strung

  148. Tracie says:

    I just read it couldn’t figure out what you were talking about LOL! I would be grumpy too with all that’s going on in Phil’s life. Especially, if a just got home from having a fight with my kid, in front of a guy that looks good enough for me to notice (as a man), that was in love with my wife! Now the biggest regret of my life is doing some crazy crap that’s made my other kid sad and me too boot! The only thing left to push Phil over the edge would be if Knight hiked his leg and took a wee wee down Phil’s leg!

    • janet says:

      Peeeee. What do you think Kim did to Liam that makes Phil sad? Laura said it’s more sad for the readers so that makes me think it just makes think Phil is more disgusted with Kim than sad? Also Laura used the word grumpy instead of angry or mad. So Phil isn’t mad at Lina I don’t think. Grumpy makes me think disgruntled… I’m not alarmed. Only the witch’s actions pushes me over the edge

      • Tracie says:

        Phil will always be disgusted with Kim! I don’t think he’s upset with Lina! He’s tired of be fearful where Nick is concerned! Lina is his everything and now he called her. I don’t think Nick would hold back with Lina, if Phil ever let his guard down again. But Phil is not going to let that happen, if anything he’s hyper aware of Nick now. But Phil can’t say Logan’s going to change schools so I don’t have to see Nick, but family of mine the you have to put up with my mistake (Kim) down the road and be happy with it. He’s going to have to resign himself to that fact and Phil and Lina come up with a new battle plan to piece their families lives back together for a HEA

  149. janet says:

    Tracie, Did you read that? Phil is grumpy and Nick is hot. oooh to both.

  150. Tracie says:

    Janet the sad scene where Phil and Liam are sad because of Kim’s actions. I don’t think the witch is in the scene. Lina sidelined it for a couple of days when she had those BAM scenes that came out of nowhere.

  151. Tracie says:

    Now poor Phil has to deal with a sad situation because of Kim.

    • janet says:

      Today’s scene is with Kim? I thought Laura finished Liam’s sad scene. Tell me! Oh Laura just on a side note. I spoke to soon about that barri Bryan book. It was really lame. Don’t get it. You don’t have time anyway.

  152. Tracie says:

    Laura are you starting on sad scene today?

  153. Laura says:

    Just finished my Logan/Phil scene. Part of it happened outside of Nick’s townhouse — poor Phil.

    • Tracie says:

      Laura our Phil will triumph I just know it……He let his guard down and allowed another man to get close to his family, while he was being selfish. Lina calling Nick is kind of unsettling for me. My alpha will see that as her choosing again.especially discussing their family problems (my assumption only). Phil is being hit from all sides, he is suffering the consequences for his actions. Now he needs a break guys….Love my Phil. LOL

      • Laura says:

        turns out Nick called Lina. Ugh — he really is a mature guy, much more mature than our Phil, at least in the parenting department. I still love Phil more.

        • Tracie says:

          Me too…Phil is the only one for Lina. Phil was the worker bee, Lina was the full time parent. Phil even admitted to the fact, Lina was the better parent. How could Nick not be an awesome parent, he is a child psychiatrist. Plus, wasn’t Nicks dad a dominant like Phil? Phil will be jealous of Nick having a relationship with Logan. Just like Lina is his, so is Logan. Phil was right, Liam will not replace Logan. Phil loves his son, he just has to convince Logan (my opinion only). I think Logan is also going to have trust issues with Phil. Wow poor Phil is right…. Laura did Logan talk to Phil’s dad about how he was feeling?

        • Veronica says:

          I like th
          Both for massively different reasons and for massively different women though. Think Phil is for Lina and Nick is mean
          For someone else. But based on actions I do slightly prefer Nick.

      • janet says:

        You know Phil started it. He got jealous when Logan told Phil..Nick would put his family above everyone else, Nick would never do the things you did, Nick would never criticize or push me like you do dad …so after his talk with Logan he probably told Nick off saying stop influencing my family- Phil’s style. Of course nick being nick he diffused the situation. Nick thinks Phil is a Neanderthal thug.

        • Tracie says:

          That would probably be correct J-Girl. But think about this, Nick is a diffuser and so is Lina…that equals Boring! Phil is an Alpha which means he needs his diffuser, that makes things spicy hot! The elf pants scene is a good example! Lina loves it too!

          • Janet says:

            Yes I totally agree. When he gave Lina the book on rumi as Xmas present I was over him. Lol. Yes I agree. The elf pj is so phil and Lina needs that.

          • Laura says:

            Over Nick? I thought you loved Nick. He was pretty hot in the scene today, btw. Sorry Tracie, Phil’s grumpy right now. When he isn’t happy the whole world has to feel it.

          • Tracie says:

            This is such a proud moment for me My Salt, you are officially a convert!!!!!

          • Janet says:

            Lol. Yeah that scene did nothing for my libido.

          • janet says:

            Well when I read that scene I knew Lina belonged with Phil. Nick is too brainy for her. I rather he gave her hiking boots? Motorcycle helmet so they can ride off together? If books then maybe essays of Flannery O’Connor? hahaha I do not know but love poems are too romantic for me. And that’s why you are the writer and I’m only a fan! But I’m not over over Nick. just that scene when I had the lightbulb moment.

        • Laura says:

          Janet — the only thing you got right is that Nick thinks Phil is a Neanderthal thug. LOL

    • Tracie says:

      I wonder if Nick is thinking, “What have I got myself into with this family?” That is the second time Phil has had an embarrassing moment outside of Nicks townhouse.

  154. Deb says:

    Hi Janet, I responded to Laura’s reply to my post up above but haha yeah clearly I’m not on Phil’s side…for now…
    I just feel for Lina’s character – her life is never going to be the same! She’s going to have a constant reminder in her life of her husband’s betrayal…that’s why I hoped she’d end up with Nick so she could actually move on with her life and let Phil deal with the train wreck of his…but I’m sure Laura will change my mind when I read the next installment 🙂
    Really enjoying the discussion and tidbits from Laura…just a shame I’m in a completely different time zone…my husband is sick of me talking about these characters haha (but secretly I’m letting him know that in no uncertain terms would I support him if he ends up with a “love” child!!!!)

    • Tracie says:

      Hi Deb, I know how you feel about Phil, but he does have many redeeming qualities. He knows the hurt and devastation he has caused, better than anyone and he is suffering the consequences. Lina loves Phil and the heart wants what the heart wants. Thus the reason Nick wasn’t the victor. Lina may look at Liam at first as Phil’s betrayal, but then she will have to adopt the fact the Liam is an extension of the man she loves and not another woman’s child. That baby is as innocent as her own children. I like the comment about your husband being sick of talking about the Hunters LOL. My husband has decided he would just go with it and wants to know what’s happening in blog world LOL.

    • Janet says:

      Hi Debs! LOL about your husband listening to you vent. Yes, this blog saved my sanity for the last few months and wish you were in US time zone too! All I can say is this. Phil’s POV. We need it!! When the pictures came out in chapter 28 I wanted Phil out of Linas life too. I remember when she crumpled those pictures up I thought what are you doing? He can’t see the pictures if you crumpled them up. Go iron them out right now or better yet blow them up to 8×10 and tape them up in the bathroom mirror so he can see it like they are x rays. No no no! But I knew they belonged together so I wanted to see how Phil made it up to Lina. Remember when Logan comes back from vacation with Phil and he said women were all over Phil and Katie said if Lina didn’t forgive him he would probably end up with someone else? I believed that and didn’t want that for Phil and Lina. And from the amount of tidbits Laura shared with us here so far I agree with Tracie. Phil has suffered enough. So yes Laura will change our minds. Keep checking Debs!

  155. Tracie says:

    I love butterrum lifesavers. But no J-girl I’m at an apple store getting my baby a lap top for college, but I’ll give you girls one tomorrow night. Fencin huh….that sounds cool! I could totally do that…

    • janet says:

      Ok Mimi. Long day for you!! I can totally see you whip the sword around! Try it!! Good night!

    • Laura says:

      butterrum lifesavers are my favorite!

      • Tracie says:

        Laura I promise you don’t have to go to the gym if you eat them LOL. You crack me up, one post you needed to put on winter weight, second post you got cheesecake, third post you went to the gym to work off the cheesecake. That would void first post. LOL. Now me, I told my husband if I gained anymore weight, I was going to have to go bear hunting so I could have a winter coat!

        • Laura says:

          LOL The putting on winter weight comment was a joke! And I just had a piece of key lime pie, so I definitely need another trip to the gym. I’m out of control this week. If anyone needs to lose weight all they have to do is get Vizsla — this dog needs at least six miles of running a day!

          • Janet says:

            You are killing me. I love key lime pie too! Once I watched a segment on food network on a key lime place in Florida I think it was a Cuban bakery. Anyway i called the next day and placed an order. Then another time I was reading kindle Alexander’s book and the hero in the book was obsessed with cherry cookies from a bakery in Texas. So then I had to order their cherry cookies and once I heard they were famous for their fruitcake as well… I mean it goes on. My junk food obsession.

          • Laura says:

            OMG I’ve never even thought of doing that! I’m not sure if I have the patience to plan that far ahead. Does the food arrive fresh?

          • janet says:

            Oh Lord about your daughter! Ok you are right. She’s not coming back. You may have to get a pied-a terre there.
            You can order online and they come fresh. 2 days at the most. Williams Sonoma carries really yummy ones. even get those iced easter cookies there and they are so fresh and good.

          • Laura says:

            I do like William Sonoma and have ordered their candy many times

  156. janet says:

    Oh you guys are all over the blog tonight. Gonna take my boy fencing and I’ll check back later. Tracie are you home to tell us a nightcap? I have my butter rum lifesaver ready for you. Lol.

  157. Tracie says:

    He won’t be listening, but I wonder if Lina will tell Phil?

  158. Tracie says:

    Ohhhhhh, that’s dangerous sister. Phil is going to blow a gasket.

  159. Laura says:

    Maybe I should call this book Poor Phil. Oh and now my next scene is Lina calling Nick. Didn’t see that coming either

    • janet says:

      Omg so good!! I can’t wait. Is Phil near her listening in? He’s such not a eavesdropper but he can look Lina in the eye the whole time they are on the phone. Bam curveball like Tracie said.

  160. Tracie says:

    You are all about the confrontation J-Girl. You Rock Salt…how funny catch that girls. Rock Salt….

  161. Tracie says:

    I wonder how Phil is going to feel about dropping his son off at Nicks while he’s emotional! Knowing Nicks a child psychiatrist!

  162. Tracie says:

    Good if he doesn’t, the hurt and rage could fester toward Phil. It needs to be purged.

  163. Tracie says:

    I bet Lina doesn’t get to drive to Nicks anymore. The scene came to you, because it was suppose too! Remember unique….that’s what you are….I’m personally a science experiment. LOL

    • Laura says:

      LOL No way! and you are definitely a science experiment that went right.

    • Tracie says:

      Laura my son-in-law got his certification in clinical pharmacy, loves psychology books, etc…I am his experiment at times LOL. He said how do you go from giving a presentation to a room full of people and then flip to Minnie Pearl? It’s called diversity child…L

      • Laura says:

        I love psychology, philosophy and everything in between. Clinical pharmacy interesting. I’ll have to look that up!

        • Tracie says:

          Lol. He works with doctors on their cases to ensure the medication is not conflicting with symptoms etc. Especially patients who have multiple doctors. He monitors their charts to ensure their medications do not conflict with one another.

      • Janet says:

        Tracie, what is clinical pharmacy? Sounds brainy. I don’t know what that is. Basically I want to know can he give me flu shots and will he explain instructions for my drugs when I go to Walgreens.

        • Tracie says:

          Yes he can give a shot, but he doesn’t work retail. He works in a hospital environment, then he has a consulting business on the side for his clinical cases.

  164. Tracie says:

    My heart is thumping Phil and Logan emotional….Good emotional, sad emotional?

  165. Tracie says:

    Tell them Laura our Phil is suffering….I read my swoon scene twice today…LOL! Those girls have left me setting by Starbucks so long, people are starting to drop change in my purse!

    • Laura says:

      Currently writing an emotional scene with Phil and Logan. I have no idea where it came from. One minute they are driving to Nick Drayton’s and the next minute bang — and I haven’t even got to my sad scene yet. I think I’m about done writing for the evening. Time for a drink LOL

  166. janet says:

    Thanks for sharing. I enjoy reading about families here. Everyone’s kids are so smart. Mine too LOL! Also LOL is Debs post earlier today. I just reread it and laughed out loud. Something tells me she wants to see Phil suffer more than me on this blog. I remember her first post and letting out a gasp because she wanted Phil to live with Kim for a few months to teach him a lesson. That was hilarious. And now she wants Phil to suffer by having Logan live with Nick. Phil’s jaw will permanently lock if that happens. Debs please join us more often for the discussion chats. Laura and Tracie are not happy campers when we bash Phil to this extent.

    • Laura says:

      Janet — If I had Logan move in with Nick, Phil would end up in jail. Nick would get Lina and then I could write a love story staring Phil and the prison librarian. (Just kidding Tracie.)

      Are you originally from Southern California, Janet?

      • janet says:

        Oh I can’t have Nick end up with Lina because in my mind he is with Kathy now. Phil and Lina need to be together as much as I would love a prison librarian story! I think if I can do it all over again I would study to become a librarian. I finished After Hours while back. I liked it a lot and bought Hard Times(I think?) but haven’t started yet. I got used to Phil’s alpha barking-LOL-so I thought the hero in After Hours was a bit timid. He asked the girl’s permission way too much. Cara is an excellent writer. I will start the other one soon. Now, I’m deep into Barri Bryan’s Finding Emily. So far so good. Similiar setting as our WPF.
        I was born in Seoul, Korea but came to LA when I was 8. I’m the eldest of 3 and we all spread out to east coast for schools then settled back home eventually because we all wanted to be close to our parents. Now my sister and I live 2 blocks from each other and the rest of the gang 10 min away. We definitely live in a LA bubble.

        • Laura says:

          I think Cara is excellent at bringing a scene to life. He was a timid character but so endearing. I’ll check out the other book you mentioned.

          That’s so nice having your family close! I live that close to my dad and one sister. The rest have spread on the east and west coasts. I’m number 5

  167. Tracie says:

    I know Phil says he reads people for a living! But girls let’s face it, only a woman can really read a woman. Phil read Nick like a book, because he’s a man. Yes Phil could probably read a woman fairly well as an attorney, but not really get all the 411 upfront. I can tell you will quick, what I think about another woman!

  168. Laura says:

    Unfortunately, I have met Kim, well not exactly but women with her traits. Usually they don’t have kids. And men are blind when it comes to women sometimes.

  169. Tracie says:

    My mini me has hugged me all day….But I have to look at going to college as another event in her life I get to share and enjoy with her. But her Mimi will be screaming for the stands on her first college game “that’s right, Who’s your Mimi?” She always runs down the court pointing at me….my eyes just watered like Phil’s in Chapter 47!

    • janet says:

      Omg So sweet and cool. You know that’s rare right? Ok I’m a moron again because I don’t know college sports teams well. Is she attending a big football/basketball school?

      • Tracie says:

        Thank you, it is sweet, she’s my superstar. My grandsons are the bomb too! So sweet, my two year old said yesterday (talking to me) he held up his hand and said “simmer down sister!” I was making him pick up his toys LOL!

    • Laura says:

      I love that Tracie — her running down the court pointing at you — so sweet!

    • Tracie says:

      She going to West Texas and playing at a Jr College. Then going to the university they partner with. Her position is Post and they rotate from the Jr college through the university. Currently, her post is filled at the university. So her Junior year she will move to that team.

  170. Janet says:

    Oh no. We will be sad. What did that witch do this time. Arggggh. Laura I got my cheesecake just now. I’m sure your daughter already knows this place in NYC but just in case you never tried. Lady M. I think they have a few location in NYC. You can order online too. Tracie I looked up Tulsa for pics. It’s beautiful and very much a big city. Sad your mini me will be 4 hours away! I always told mine that wherever they end up for school I will move with them so they can’t ever ditch me. You know they are going to need my stuffing the toaster oven to the limit skill. Waaaahh. Have a good rest of the day ladies.

    • Laura says:

      LOL Kim’s parenting skills aren’t to the neglect/criminal level. I’ve known worse parents. It’s just relative to Lina’s. Or Phil’s mother. He has nothing else to compare her to.
      My daughter told me she was never moving out and then she told me she was never leaving Maryland, then the east coast — hopefully she meant that one because if she moved to California I would follow.
      She went to the University of Pennsylvania which is just two hours away in Philadelphia but it may as well have been on the other side of the country — she rarely came home. Once they start school, they get summer internships and that’s it, they’re gone. It’s such a huge adjustment. One minute they are everywhere and then boom — your house is quiet. I just asked her about Lady M and she said she passes it every day. Enjoy your babies Janet! And I know Tracie will be shedding tears soon.

    • Tracie says:

      I know what you mean Laura. My daughter went four hours away to Southwestern to get her BS, then she did an internship every summer. She came home her freshman year every weekend until fall break after that hardly ever. She found her crew and was off and running. We bought a house in Weatherford and flipped it, so when I did go to visit her once in a while we had a bedroom. Then she graduated college and that same weekend we had to move her to Memphis. Her Masters program was on tri-masters. She met her husband while in Weatherford, he was getting his doctorate in Pharmacy, so she graduated her two years later moved her back to Edmond and she got married 30 days later when he graduated. She did move back home though, because her husband could make more In McAlester than he could OKC. So I’m fortunate…..

      • Laura says:

        I’ve heard that — that kids come home. I guess I’ll see. At this point my daughter is all about city living. LOL

        • janet says:

          I think nyc is the best place to live in your 20s. don’t you think? I truly believe theres no place like it and everyone should be lucky enough to experience it- when young. Rite of passage and all that. Now not so much. I think your daughter will come back to her mommy. Just pray she doesn’t marry a native.

          • Laura says:

            Yes, I think NYC is an exciting place to live and what better time than before children. The only thing I have against it is that it isn’t here! And she has fallen for a native — he was born and raised there…

  171. Tracie says:

    Since we are talking about cell Phones…..I wonder if Phil checks Lina’s to see if she has Nicks number or any old text messages still exist. I know the pictures of Kim and Phil are on her cell phone, can’t wait to see how those get deleted.

    • Janet says:

      Oh I forgot all about that for at least 2 weeks. You are right. Laura said we will know in SN. That’s gonna be another cabby savvy night for us

  172. Tracie says:

    Laura are you writing a scene today? Wondering what our emotion is for today!

    • Laura says:

      I’ve been writing since five with the exception of a quick trip to the gym (because of yesterday’s cheesecake). I’m currently in a coffee shop with Adele and Lina but I’m getting ready to write a kind of sad scene – it will probably carry over into tomorrow. All Kim’s fault but she won’t really be in it

    • Tracie says:

      Sad for who???? Sorry can’t help it! Lol.. Okay rest yourself that’s a long time to be behind a computer.

      • Laura says:

        Sad for little Liam and Phil and Lina too because what makes Phil sad makes Lina sad.

        • Laura says:

          I think mostly it’s going to be sad for the reader — sorry. And when I get into one of these ‘flow’ periods of writing I have to keep going — can’t really sleep until the scene is done, especially an emotional one.

      • Tracie says:

        Aww why would any woman want to make her baby sad?? Let you mind go to slapping a ho down! Ho down has more than one meaning in Okla! LOL

        • Laura says:

          LOL Kim doesn’t want to make Liam sad, but Kim is selfish and self absorbed — all about Kim.

          • janet says:

            Ok what the heck. How did she hide this from Phil for months? I know he didn’t care because he didn’t see a future with her but did he see self absorption as self confidence? He must have seen her interact with others at work. One question I keep forgetting to ask you is does Kim have any real girlfriends? Not her followers but someone who can get through to her. Would that be her sister?

          • Tracie says:

            Janet remember in the sister scene I referenced earlier, even Kim’s sister said “what did she do?” So no girlfriends….the only friends Kim probably has is MasterCard and Visa!

          • Laura says:

            good catch Tracie!

        • Tracie says:

          Well self absorption will leave you old and lonely….Bring it on Kim!!

          • janet says:

            Right! If having a child doesn’t mature you or wake you the hell up I don’t see hope for her. She’s been obsessed with Phil for two years or so now. I am scared of her. Tracie you want to take her on. I say you can’t reason with this woman and would move to another state. Witness protection program doesn’t sound so crazy now.

          • Tracie says:

            I know Janet, my brother was selfish one time about his son in front of my mama….Wowza she let him know real quick you deserve nothing you made that choice when your wife got pregnant, but that baby deserves everything you can give.

  173. Tracie says:

    I can tell you this a guy throwing up is gross! My husband sounds like he’s dying and loud, geez I need ear protection. The day after Liam’s BD Party, the warning scene with Kim’s sister….The sister said you are Phil Right? So they couldn’t of both been at the BD party. That’s all LOL ….Okay me and the girls are college dorm shopping in the big city today, I already walked in a family bathroom and a guy didn’t lock the door and I can’t unsee that!

  174. Tracie says:

    God love my baby she got car sick. Lina is the victim, but she will have to help Phil forgive himself. The reason she was looking makes me giddy! LOL. I love Katie more and more! I have another question Laura, in the sister scene you shared, the sister didn’t know Phil. So either only one of them were at the Liam’s BD party or both could of been there and not met. Hmmmm. Just a thought!

    • janet says:

      Oh lord I hate that. When one kid throws up everyone follows. It’s crazy chain reaction I’ve experienced.
      Tracie I’m totally confused today. Was I on zzquil when Laura gave us Liam’s party scene? What am I missing and when you say sisters do you mean kim’s? Also I just read Laura’s reply about lawyers bumping into each other outside the courtroom. Bam boom dang. More angst for me.

      • Laura says:

        Ugh the stomach flu is the worst! I’d rather have the regular flu for two weeks than a stomach flu for six hours. And in the car – oh no! Hopefully she was just car sick.

        Tracie has been talking about Liam’s birthday party on and off for a week. I’ve never said anything. She’s trying to get me to but I won’t 😉

        • janet says:

          Omg the first time my kids got it I thought it was a form of exorcism. Projectile vomit for days and stuff coming out of both ends and no cure for days. Wth. When I saw orange Gatorade vomit the second day I started crying with them. Who came up with the cute word tummy bug? Tracie that was a good sly trick that Laura didn’t fall for. How about this Laura. Stick that tummy bug for couple days with Liam and see how Kim handles it vs Lina

          • Laura says:

            So gross! My daughter only had it once — thank God! And I do recall seeing the Gatorade come back haha
            I really can’t imagine Kim dealing with it. Maybe I’ll find out.

          • Tracie says:

            That would be good, make sure when he hurls it’s on a really expensive something! Lol

  175. Tracie says:

    This is my life, you send a warning message and my granddaughter throw up in my car at the same time! I’ll be back…my daughter gagging from the smell geez!

  176. Laura says:

    WARNING — Here’s a passage for you…

    “Mom?”
    Lina spun around, her hand coming to her chest. “You scared me.”
    “Why?” Katie frowned at her. “What are you doing?”
    “Nothing. I wasn’t expecting you.” She set Phil’s cellphone on the bureau.
    “Were you reading Dad’s texts?”
    “No,” she lied. “I was just moving his phone.”
    “I’m not going to tell him. I kind of get why you’re doing it, you know, after what he did.”
    “I wasn’t reading his texts, Katie,” Lina insisted. “How was shopping?”

    • janet says:

      Oooh. Was she checking? Is she having trust issues? Does Phil know she’s checking? My heart hurts. Damn it Phil. I know Tracie keeps saying Lina has to help Phil forgive himself and I agree but I think Lina is the biggest victim here and Phil needs to reassure her in every possible way. I’m glad releasing the passcode for cell is first step since that’s how WPF began. Laura, when Phil changed it during the fling so Lina couldn’t find out, did the temprorary passcode hold any meaning like all the others? How about email password? Was there a temporary one too for 4 months?

    • Janet says:

      Laura was this passage from beginning of the SN? If it’s in the middle I think Lina is still shredded each time Phil has to communicate/ see Kim.

    • Veronica says:

      I like Katie, she gets the situation more for Lina than Megan does!

  177. Tracie says:

    I love the idea of Phil proposing to Lina again and renewing their vows. Awesome Veronica! Now that would pierce Kim coolness!

    • janet says:

      That would make Kim go beserk wouldn’t it? Maybe she can drop by with a pretense of Liam needing new stage diapers and the neighbor let’s her know the whole family is away for the weekend. That Will definitely shake her up

  178. Laura says:

    Good morning girls! I’m reposting a comment Veronica left on our old page because I loved it so much!….

    From Veronica:
    I know it’s cheesy and probably would be no good but would actually enjoy seeing a vow renewal scene between Lina and Phil to mark a fresh start and an end to all the drama!

  179. Deb Mason says:

    Hi again, it’s Deb (from NZ)…I posted a few weeks ago and have just been catching up on all the posts…wow what a discussion!! Just to throw another thought into the mix, I was wondering about a scenario where Logan has enough of the stress of life at home and goes and lives at Nick’s for a while…I imagine this would throw a real spanner in the works for the Hunters…I would love to see the fireworks between Nick and Phil and also more of the interaction between Lina and Nick…anyway just a thought – like the others, I seem to be consumed by this story!!
    I can’t wait for your next book Laura and would love to read all the parts you had to edit out of WPF…
    P.S. Re your reply, glad to hear NZ is on your bucket list…I would be more than happy to let you know the best places to visit 🙂

  180. Tracie says:

    Thank you my sister, now you got it! I’m talking Dueling Banjos ugly!

  181. Tracie says:

    Girls, I’m talking my front snag and it was (to me) a huge hole, but it wasn’t a empty hole, it had a nasty looking stalactite fang hanging from the middle of my gum. I would push my tongue against it in the mirror and it would make my tongue look like a snakes tongue….split it right down the middle…..ewwww

    • Laura says:

      Okay, now I get it. It’s kind of like Phil not wanting Lina to have a visual of him in elf pjs, only a thousand times worse!

    • Janet says:

      Lol. Indegestion again!! You didn’t say front

      • Laura says:

        me too! I went to a bday party and had two slices of cheesecake ugh

        • janet says:

          Oh I love cheesecake so much!! I love plain with extra sour cream on top. Yummm. So good. I just asked husband if he can go pick up a slice for me. NO! I must get one tomorrow. Laura you can try Black Forest gummy bears from amazon. I’m on the subscribe and save monthly delivery.

          • Laura says:

            That’s my favorite type too! It’s the one dessert I can never resist. I’ll order some gummy bears, thanks. Winters coming, I need to put on some weight 😉

  182. janet says:

    LOL Tracie. Your stories are priceless! I’m such the opposite to your southern lady manners! Last year one of my molars cracked in half. At first the dentist said he could save the tooth and do a root canal but turned out I needed an implant instead so my tooth was extracted. I came home and the first thing I did was show my husband how gnarly my holey gum looked and described my 20 min ordeal tooth extraction. I’m such a moose! But that’s ok bc most days I barely tolerate my other half. Lol

    • Laura says:

      LOL I would probably be like you Janet, showing everyone my holey gum. I guess I’m lucky I’ve never had anything but a few fillings. I hate dentists.

  183. Tracie says:

    You are right sister….I just want to pierce her coolness….I know Laura will come through with flying colors….it’s just fun to try and guess wrong LOL. I left you and Laura a story up by our gum comment!

  184. Tracie says:

    Janet she will probably try to get on cases he’s on and leave voicemails, find reasons to pop into Phil’s firm. Phil’s mantra will be “Me and My Shadow”. Do you think Lina is going to be jealous? I don’t think she will be as long as Phil is completely open with her on everything Kim.

    • janet says:

      however, she really is just an associate with another firm so our scenario maybe farfetched. If they do bump into each other at restaurants Lina does have to brazen it out since Kim will prey on any weakness. Lina knows Phil only has eyes for her but still I would think she would be so jealous that Phil may see her on random days now. I say don’t engage in front of anyone. Ignore her like she isn’t there.

  185. Tracie says:

    Oh oh oh , after Lina says How is your meal sweetheart? He turns to her with a 100 watt smile and says: it’s never been better baby!

  186. Tracie says:

    But what would shock Kim, if Lina was brazen enough to reach her hand out to the associate, and say Hi I’m Lina Hunter, Phil’s wife and the one she’s trying to humiliate, but it’s not working, so now if you’ll excuse us! Then turns to Phil saying: Swwerheart how’s your meal!

  187. Tracie says:

    Janet Snippet time…..Lina is in Baltimore staging a few homes and Phil ask her to meet him for lunch, near the courthouse….Kim comes in with some associates from her firm. They are going to have to pass Lina and Phil’s table to be seated. Kim stops in front of their table (like most professionals would knowing each other) and turns to one of the associates, saying you commented on my son’s picture yesterday and wondered where he got his good looks, well this is your answer, the father of my son Phil Hunter. Totally ignores Lina…What would Phil do???? He would have to be professional, if he said this is my wife, it would humiliate her!!!

    • janet says:

      Woooooo, so good Tracie. Spot on! She probably won’t give Phil time to respond once she sees his eyes turn to fire. Maybe as she leaves their table say “I left you a voicemail regarding a case. I’ll check back with you after lunch.” Then sit down across from Lina behind phil and goad her like she did at the wedding. But I think phil put a restraining order on her so then what?

    • Laura says:

      LOL can you imagine? I cringe at the thought.

  188. janet says:

    Oh Laura, I’m not disciplined like you. I will eat one type of candy till I get sick of it and can’t look at it for a month. I do this with food too. I found one good vietnamese restaurant in my area few months back and I needed their fish sauce every night for a week. Then I refused to go with anyone after that saying I couldn’t take the smell of the sauce. My sister hates me and when I find a restaurant I like and comment on it, she just says just stop right there and don’t ruin it for everyone else. Going through major black forest gummies and peanut m&m’s this month. I think my only constant crave this summer is the fake iced tea.

    • Tracie says:

      You crack me up J-Girl, I’m on sour gummies and root beer floats! LOL

      • Janet says:

        Ooh chomping sour patch gum right now Tracie. Really unattractive.

        • Tracie says:

          You kill me LOL!

          • Tracie says:

            Oh I got a story for you….The gum chomping reminded me! I had a temporary crown on my front tooth because my other chipped while I was eating an apple. We were building a shop house on a lake lot and the rain had made the driveway muddy and it was just a mess tromping mud everywhere. So my husband was having some gravel delivered to spread on the driveway. So we were waiting on the gravel to be delivered and were eating some ribs and my temporary crown came off. I immediately turn my back and pushed it back on it didn’t break just came off. But is was so loose, but my plan was to get some Fixadent on the way home, it holds dentures so I had this until I could get to the Dentist. Well the gravel came and my husband climbed on the tractor to start spreading the gravel, I was standing by the pile of gravel shoveling it into low places around the patio….well I sneezed and my crown flew out of my mouth and landed in the pile of gravel. So what are the odds of me finding a white/gray tooth in a pile of white/gray gravel. None would be correct! My husband said what’s wrong and I was trying to tell him with my hand over my mouth. He said let me see. I said NO! I look like something out of the movie Deliverance and you’ll never want to have sex with me again. So I wore a dust mask until I could get to the dentist on Monday. That’s right!

          • Laura says:

            haha OMG you made me laugh out loud again!

        • Laura says:

          I love sour patch kids! All this candy talk is making me hungry.

    • Laura says:

      I’m not sure if I could get sick of any candy. Well maybe candy corns, but that would just be temporary. I’ve never had black forest gummies.

  189. Tracie says:

    I’m sorry too Laura….I haven’t really had a clear thought in two days. Just rants…..

    • janet says:

      There was a full moon out in Okla last night. You are excused! I stayed home today and did nothing except feed 5 kids

      • Tracie says:

        I knew she would work in Baltimore, she’s wants to be everywhere Phil may possibly be hoping to not only get under his skin, but Lina’s as well. Kim’s like a leach Phil can’t peel off! Janet I want to know how you fed 5 kids with a toaster oven??

        • janet says:

          bahaha. OK 5 no since one boy is 6’2″ already. This boy still isn’t allowed to cross the street by himself btw. I stuffed them up with carbs.
          You knew Tracie? you think some accidental run ins will be in SN?

  190. janet says:

    Hi Laura. Sorry for so many questions today and I really don’t wan to keep you from my favorite Logan but I’m sitting here thinking about small details. So Phil’s firm is in Baltimore and their home in the suburbs is about 45 min from DC? Did Kim get a job in DC? If so how long is her commute from her new house? Did I answer my own question?

    • Laura says:

      Seriously? I was out with friends last night and kept talking about the Hunters — I’d be worse without this outlet.
      Traffic getting into DC is much heavier than getting in to Baltimore. Kim is once again working in Baltimore

      • janet says:

        Next to Phil! Or near it. Lord. I don’t know if it’s impt but I think it is! Possible run ins. I don’t know how big Baltimore is but there can’t be too many restaurants. More fodder for office gossip. Gawd!

  191. Tracie says:

    Well at least Phil and Katie are talking! LOL.

  192. Tracie says:

    Laura is our Phil better today since you writing a scene with Lina…..

  193. Tracie says:

    Okay since Kim is a combination of Rambo for the cool factor and the sophistication of the Queen of England….The only our I see is the Hunters going into the witness protection program!

    • janet says:

      Ding ding. LOL

      • Tracie says:

        I know this may be a duh question too, but I’m not putting anything past Kim anymore….is Liams last name Hunter? I doubt Phil will stand for anything less….

        • janet says:

          Why wouldn’t Kim want Liam to have any other last name? I’m sure she loved signing his name Liam Hunter on that birth certificate. Her territorial instincts came out full force thinking ok just one more name to change! Imagine Lina having to share her income with Kim? Kim wouldn’t buy formulas with it. Probably perfume and lingerie for herself. Ugh ugh! I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night thinking after 25 years of not working and finally gaining some financial independence, some of it has to foot Kim’s beauty expense. My mind is going wild.

          • Tracie says:

            I know Janet, I just had to ask……You are going to come back with a blogger slap moment, but there is a little bit of sad associated with Kim. Even though she cold, calloused, selfish and calculating witch, she’ll never be able to change Phil’s feelings for her. All her planning, hate and discontent maneuvers are futile. You can’t intimidate and hound somebody into loving you!.

          • Tracie says:

            J-girl you are so on today….I’m just going to have start thinking more evil’

        • Laura says:

          Janet’s right. Kim was all over this!

  194. Tracie says:

    Janet I just threw the schedule out there…so you would kind of see Lina could possibly still get her free time, unless Laura is winding up for a curve ball.

    • janet says:

      You guys, I’m home babysitting some kids on a play date and watched Omarosa interview for her new book “Unhinged”(LOL). Is Kim the white Omarosa? If this is the case there’s no saving her. This lady has a comeback for everything.